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This is why Oracle is a joke in IaaS cloud

Oracle is a joke in IaaS cloud because:

1) Never before have C-level executives made so much money by making such bad decisions and having zero vision. LE literally laughed at cloud in 2009 and instead decided that Oracle would become a hardware company. How is that working out? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KmXJSeMaoTY

2) As a result, Oracle was very late to the game. Basic IaaS services were not GA until 2016, ten years behind AWS and 5 years behind Azure.

3) Gartner did not even put Oracle on the IaaS Magic Quadrant until 2017, due to "lack of market share" and "insufficient services offering."

4) Oracle has not invested enough in cloud infrastructure to compete. According to Morningstar, over the past 4 years, Oracle has invested $3 billion, Microsoft $14 billion, Google $30 billion.

5) Oracle has made bad acquisitions and false starts, the same problem as with IBM. Oracle tried to build a public cloud with the technology acquired from Nimbula using leased data center space from Equinix. It didn't scale or compete. Then in 2016, they had to start over with Gen2 / Bare Metal cloud, which is behind the Nimbula cloud in services and security certifications. Ask your Oracle salespeople if the database service is HIPAA certified on Bare Metal. Ask your salespeople to provide a map of where Oracle cloud data centers are located. Ask if there is software-defined networking. As if IaaS virtual machines can have two network cards and therefore run Oracle Database RAC. Ask if there is a data center on the US west coast. Ask them why there are two clouds.

6) Without an adequate IaaS infrastructure, the new "Autonomous Database" service won't work either.

Excellent points by @PKFkLap-2cgc.

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@PPI4dZZ-siv

Interesting response to oracle cloud on a resume in another thread.

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@PNPW5NW-2siu

Thanks fore the link.

It's amazing to read this:

"We don't plan to be in the rent-by-minute computer business," ES said.

When you look at the actual cloud oracle page, this is now exactly what oracle is doing.

ES should have been fired years ago, but he seems to member of the LE, MH and SC gang.

How sad it is ...

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Post ID: @2kfk+PNPW5NW

Imagine how much closer we would be to the competition if LE and he buddies had the sense not to interfere with Sun's IaaS. What a mind-boggling failure of vision.

https://m.theregister.co.uk/2010/01/28/sun_amazon_cloud_dead/

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Post ID: @2siu+PNPW5NW

The oracle goose that laid golden eggs is dead, a rotting carcass, and the stench - ouch!

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Post ID: @2jwb+PNPW5NW

Oracle looks healthy from outside but is rotting inside. MH has destroyed the morale in sales and TK has done that to engineering. How will the company produce winning products in this kind of atmosphere.

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Post ID: @1okq+PNPW5NW

OP is correct. Oracle invests too little in public cloud as compare to the major players. Oracle cares too much about present profit. This will just get worst.

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Post ID: @1lqm+PNPW5NW

"The narcissists I knew at Oracle were obsessed with taking credit for what other people did." - one time I was in a meeting and I thought to myself, "This looks just like a tool that I developed". As the meeting went on I realised it WAS the thing I developed. A manager from another team had cloned the code from an internal repo, rebranded it, and presented it as something his team came up with. Insane.

Did they then file a patent for it?

I had someone copy my code over and file a patent for it.

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Post ID: @1zba+PNPW5NW

LE just like DJT, words with no meaning and no substance behind them, plus of course lots of marriages and much younger girl friend and wife respectively. Two peas in a pod. Both creating huge messes and failing to see it

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Post ID: @plp+PNPW5NW

"The narcissists I knew at Oracle were obsessed with taking credit for what other people did." - one time I was in a meeting and I thought to myself, "This looks just like a tool that I developed". As the meeting went on I realised it WAS the thing I developed. A manager from another team had cloned the code from an internal repo, rebranded it, and presented it as something his team came up with. Insane.

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Post ID: @cmu+PNPW5NW

It's good to move this to a top post. Oracle is a huge mess. I am of the opinion that LE is just not the great visionary he tries to make out he is.

I don't really know of anything that LE has done right other than the core oracle db that was developed and I would bet that if you knew what went on at that time, that success was mostly due to the hard work of developers and managers who knew what they were doing at that time and didn't get a lot of credit. The narcissists I knew at Oracle were obsessed with taking credit for what other people did.

I'd bet just about anything that LE is just an idiot who talks a lot, like Trump. The cloud will fail, they won't put the money or effort behind it, just like they didn't put the money or effort behind fusion apps. LE thinks, like Trump, that he can just make things happen by talking about them like they already happened. The internal situation is a huge mess.

Cloud will not happen at Oracle. If you work at Oracle and you want to actually do some useful work, you need to leave. There are some smart people in that area, they just need to look at the reality of the situation rather than listen to LE's propaganda.

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Post ID: @xqu+PNPW5NW

FUD. Tell me OP, are you from a competitor or are you shorting the stock. I don't deny O are playing catch up. But your take is FUD. Disclosure- RIFed ex-ORCL here.

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Post ID: @ypm+PNPW5NW

why do you have to repost this crap again and again?

we heard you the first time.

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