Thread regarding Intel Corp. layoffs

@3bdv here, I work on the product line that made Intel what it is (not HR..), and keeps making us big money even though bad managerial decisions, horrible process ramps and shrinking markets are constantly nibbling at it.

I'm not blind, and I see politics and mediocracy all around me, but some decent folks and few capable managers are still holding it all together and making it worthwhile and even enjoyable if you have the right set of mind. If you happen to be in one of these orgs, you can actually get recognized for working hard.

This is the state of affairs in any big company though, you always have a few carrying everyone else. If you think otherwise, you're just fooling yourself.

Back in the days of early Internet mania, I remember one Bay Area-based Wall Street analyst revealing that he would base some of his research on driving around the valley at 7:00 PM to discover which companies still had lots of cars in the parking lot. He opined that those companies had a more dedicated and driven culture and therefore had a better chance to succeed and were worth looking into for investment.

In later years as a remote Intel employee, I was always amazed during my visits at how early the main (AZ, OR, SC) parking lots emptied out. By 5:30pm, they were ghost towns except for the incoming later shifts. Telling.

I don't know where @3bdv works or in what group...and good for him...but at Intel something that can be a priority one day can be on the chopping block the next as true strategy has been replaced by acquisitions and chasing shiny objects. Having a decent manager makes a huge difference. And there are fewer and fewer.

I enjoy it very much, all those international travels on biz class, one day meeting but travel for a week with the other days for sight seeing, all paid by Intel. Fantastic hotels, great meals, and the local sites will bring you out for wining and dining. What's there not to like. Intel's GPTW.

Actually, I do enjoy it. My site has within 500m a few other companies, including Google, Apple, Amazon, and a few others. All are actively recruiting, and I wouldn't move there unless I absolutely must. Atmosphere there isn't always better.

I work on interesting stuff here, I get good opportunities to advance, the pay is good and promos are decent. I get along with my manager fine even without brown nosing, and we often even disagree, and that's OK because he respects his employees.

I agree BK management is horrible, and that Murthy did nothing good so far to justify his pay check, but these things are so far above our heads as long as it doest get to actual layoffs, that I simply don't care. I get it that some of you had bad managers, but that's not always the case.

By the way, the troll infestation here is really getting out of hand...

Sad thing is for most 50-something Intel-lifers living in Hillboro or some other backwater craphole, job prospects are pretty bleak. So there really isn't much of a choice.

Intel politics is so all-encompassing and pernicious because there are just so many people in this boat and there are cabals who work together to protect each other.

There are no shortage of people wandering around Intel who basically do nothing - hang with friends in the cafe, go to the gym, leave early, sit through some conference calls, travel, etc. They long ago realized that success (i.e. job security) was related to political alliances, parroting the BS from above, playing FOCAL games and going through the motions than actually accomplishing anything of value to the outside world. There are people who have done this literally for decades. It is their normal and not a bad life.

Many joining Intel were laid off from other better companies such as Seimens and HP (both better work environments than Intel). You have no choice but to enjoy Intel. Beggars cant be chosers. Especially in Sacramento area.

Bay area, company comparison would make Intel the worst place to work.

Kind of peeps 😐 😐 😐that enjoy working at Intel are either or many of the below:

1. In a laid back org within HR or IT where performance does not count

2. A low grade/dumb or RCG without prior experience - so peers or boss don't view them as a threat or competition

3. A manager/director whose job is to make life of reports he11 while enjoying themselves

4. Hired at Intel from an unknown, non-public, worth1ess, small company. Wooed by first large corp worked@ & what a large corp offers. ie Free drinks , fruit etc.

5. URM hired with previous contacts at Intel with personal form of protection and guidance.

6. Those who have only worked at Intel (very good with politics, a$$ kissing, brown nosing, PEOPLE PLEASING at all times) with no better employment options outside.

I am more than decade with intel and really enjoyed working with most of the people I work with. There are exceptions everywhere where you find some bad people, but overall colleagues are great to work with. I would recommend this to anyone who wants to join this company.

Actually, I do. But it is not because of the company, it's the people I work with.

I can say, without any doubt, the stress level at Intel is far less then at my previous company where I was employed for 10+ years. Much less politics and other BS.

intel has failed business model i hope they burn their cash fast. Its not Intel like before doesnt deserve it

Intel is run by process monkeys and control freaks. These blokes run down all the energy and creativity of the rank and file to ground. There is no uplift from this reality.

Give 15 years. Intel will be where Motorola is today. The writing is too legible to miss.

rot started after SET.

You mean enjoy as in something like https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BsjwrA_Oo18

Those who "enjoy" (whatever that means these days in Intel, staying afloat, buying time through political bs or gaming or like someone mentioned throwing others under the buss to get ahead) are mostly not in this forum and are going to be soon on the list through silent cutting as it is going to become dogs world if not already.

Spent a full decade at Intel and it has been mostly great. Towards the end thins started spiraling down so I left for a better place. No regrets.

Misery, chaos., failing business model. 😭

Two decades ago when Andy was here, great. Since the three stooges CRB, PSO, and BK the Gump took over the company is a joke.

Stock used to make up for $hit management and slave like conditions even for rank and file but the company isn’t worth working at now for most.

Theses days the fast tracking c0ck su(k3rs still are well rewarded but the larger distribution work long hours and beaten with little to look forward to. Pay is average, benefits above average but the environment is terrible now. Those that stay likely do because they have few options. Intel is in long slow decline. High grades are milking it on the backs of the lower grades.

GPTW LOL

Work/life balance (outside TMG fab execution machine) with very good pay.

I tend to be positive out of real state of things, but current state of Intel is making me not to have much to mention as positive, so I can understand although not to approve of many resorting to delusions instead of facing realities either to fix or move on.

Used to, 10 years or maybe even 5 years ago. Left last year as the post-ACT environment became quite unbearable. BK's Intel is nothing more than a mess of politics, lies, backstabbing and propaganda.

@wxm - Well said.

Despite good technology mix giving potentials to work on interesting projects, Intel has deteriorated over the last decade to now quite low grade in multiple aspects (quality of employees, high technical detachment from hands on and realities producing famously labeled political engineers, broken values promoting manipulation and throwing under the buss yet supporting nepotism, toxic politics with deep structures and incapable equally political HR unable to do anything). Twisting realities (outside called lying) on power points both in technical and management domains is widespread. Intel is not on the most top company lists for new graduates, except in the lists of some websites which are not neutral. Most of the Intel values written on the card, that some employees carry with their badge, are completely broken or not present anymore and HR is incapable of detecting nor remedying it. Collective blindness is widespread, while money from Intel monopoly is still melting, not to go to inside but enough is to mention just how Intel massages outside communication like YoY CPU performance 3-5% and 10nm 3 years late.

So, I'll be leaving Intel before end of this year as it is hard to find healthy branch to lean while outside healthy technology branches are blooming. Time to go to real green pasture.

Yeah, it was a good place at one time. Any ex-colleagues still there put on a good face until you get them alone for a private conversation. Glad I'm out.

I quit last year. Every now and then, I enjoyed the technical challenges, and as an FLM, I enjoyed helping my team members to have fun with their work and to develop their skills. ACT killed all of that though, so I got out. As far as I am concerned, any FLM who stayed after ACT cannot be an ethical human being.

And if you wonder why I come here: Not because of nostalgia, but because I care about my ex-colleagues and their fate.

I quit Intel for Samsung, Today is my last day in Junkyard.

Once upon a time, before BK and senior execs f---ed up every single initiative they tried to push.