Thread regarding Oracle Corp. layoffs

ECA Reorg

Looks liked the reorg for the ECAs under HD is lined up for execution. Consolidation of the different management chains for ECAs and removal of redundant management is in play. As far as the ECAs, if you have not been flagged as being ECAL compliant and have ECAL engagements that have led to a sale or are tied to Q3 opportunity, you are at risk. Work will be shifted to the Texas and Colorado pools of folks.

No word on how the GCAs (now ICAs) who got hit pretty hard in June will be impacted.

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@1ldm, thank you for the explanation!

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Post ID: @2tvt+PmqKc08

ECAL? Enterprise Cloud Architecture Leadership?

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Post ID: @2zgr+PmqKc08

i just got a heads up from someone I know in management that this is real and the key measurement is usage of ECAL and its various activities. If you have a deal under your belt for Q1, you are safe. But even if you are on real forecasted Q2/3/4 opportunities, unless you are following ECAL, your role as an ECA is being questioned and your job (but not you) is slotted for movement to the Austin and Colorado bullpens.

Also, now that EU has moved his ECA/SC team back under HD, apparently there is a bakeoff between HD's reports on who will run a combined ECA group between EU, RL, AL and LW and when the music stops there are not enough seats for them or their various managers. Again, it is not so much about the numbers but compliance to the varioius programs like ECAL.

No word on timing, other than it is in the works for this quarter.

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Post ID: @1dgi+PmqKc08

ECAL is HD's renamed OEA methodology for selling.

GCA were Global Client Advisors that are now ICA, Industry Client Advisor. They were supposed to be like a Booz Allen type partner to give independent advice to top customers. They are now glorified ECA's without the technical product knowledge.

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Post ID: @1ldm+PmqKc08

I know ECA is Enterprise Cloud Architect. But what about the other acronyms?

ECAL?

GCA?

ICA?

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Post ID: @1nrc+PmqKc08

Running the place into the ground. When all is said and done, oracle will be even worse, much worse, off the HP was when they fired MH. After all, they fired him before he was done destroying the place, no such luck at oracle, and to think that LE called the HP board of directors a bunch of idiot. Who's the idiot now?

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Post ID: @1qfo+PmqKc08

Well who brought useless m o r o n RG to oracle?, oh, wait, that great genius, the business titan who run HP into the ground, no one other than MH. What else do you need to know?

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Post ID: @1jqn+PmqKc08

Enterprise Cloud Architects (ECAs) can't do very much; we don't even get accounts with Oracle Cloud due to lack of capacity, and we can't sell our IaaS and PaaS because, of, you guessed it, lack of capacity. My manager, who was selected at ECA Manager of the Year in June, quit two weeks ago voluntarily. Of the 12 people on my team from a year ago, 4 were laid off in June, and 5 left voluntarily since then. We were actually told a few weeks ago that management was concerned about the attrition, and that we would get a raise. I of course have seen no raise yet, and even if there was a raise, I am still making less than a year ago due to the cuts in bonus. The projects we are working on are boring "lift and shift" of old Solaris apps or old packages like Peoplesoft, and those projects are going poorly due to lack of capacity and slow provisioning of cloud services. There are no Sparc/Solaris or Peoplesoft sales teams anymore. The ECAs literally are expected to know the 100 different IaaS and PaaS products, plus 100 on-prem software products. Then of course we get blamed if the deals don't closed. I had a great job as an SC for a long time, but Oracle is being ripped apart at the seams. I hope to have another offer soon and can't wait to get out of this hell hole.

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Post ID: @1oyj+PmqKc08

His name is Hamidout not Hamidon't.

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Post ID: @dhj+PmqKc08

HD and RG and the most incompetent leadership. They are just as bad as TK, MH, and SC. When is LE going to learn?

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Post ID: @qhi+PmqKc08

And what does he do Hamidou, how much longer does he get to hand around?

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