http://www.businessinsider.com/oracle-board-reject-shareholder-gender-pay-gap-audit-2017-9
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I also had a dream that some deranged, self made billinaire wrote an article in the Wall Street Journal criticizing said Board of Directors for firing this imaginary, s-x crazed CEO and then actually hired him to run his (the billionairie's) company onto the ground. Not even a nightmare, actually a very enjoyable slow motion train wreck. Just love it!
I once had a dream that the CEO of a fortune 100 company hired a porno queen as a 'personal assistant' and was then fired (with a substantial golden parachute) for including her services on his expense account. What a nightmare... I'm glad things like that do not happen in real life.
There is no s-xual harassment at Oracle. This is a Fortune 500 company.
Just get off this topic.
I (female) worked for a s-xual pervert (director) who kept saying things to me like "so, are you heads down" on the project today. You just need to "work your way up". I'll call him Mr. Freak. Mr. Freak also started rumors about me that circulated behind my back. I am sure he lied to HR when I left the company about me.
Mr. Freak attacked another woman to see if she would "put out" for him and she left the project.
This guy, Mr. Freak, was buddy-buddy with another pervert who had a woman working for him. I'll call this second pervert Mr. Creep. I expect she was Mr. Creep's personal wh--e, although, from her point of view, she thought they were "in love". My opinion is that he was just manipulating her. Treated her like dirt. She was always trying to do things to please him. Very, very sick manipulative relationship.
Mr. Creep kept this wh--e elevated above the other developers on the team. He would manipulate the people on the team to feel sorry for her. She would do a little girl act to pretend she was so innocent. It was all crap.
I had to work with them. Mr. Creep told me that the woman was special and she had to have "special tasks" so she wouldn't have to work with the other people on the team. I was not going to do that. He also connected her with developers outside the team so she could copy their code and present it to the team like she had done the work. She only worked on separate little pieces of code, whatever she could get from the outside developers who were working with Mr. Creep. When that code needed to be integrated into the main code, someone else on the team had to do that work. That would be too complicated for her tiny brain.
There was another woman on the project. This woman was extremely competent. She was always sidelined, kept from demos, kept from getting credit, which always went to Mr. Creep's wh--e.
Mr. Freak, who I worked for, thought highly of Mr. Creep's arrangement with his personal wh--e. I think that he was trying to set up an arrangement of his own with the woman he attacked that left his project.
It's completely disgusting. I tried to tell HR about Mr. Creep and his wh--e, but they just said that they didn't see anything wrong there. HR is completely useless at oracle in terms of policing what is going on. I guess they don't care unless there is some immediately pending lawsuit.
I left Oracle. I was being treated like dirt by Mr. Freak. The previous manager I worked for, did not appear to be an open pervert like Mr. Freak, but he did sabotage things I was working on, kept me from meetings, gave me bad information, etc. I suspect that the other guys on the project knew what he was doing. He either lied about me behind my back to get them to not work with me or they knew outright what he was doing.
I was a very good developer, it is Oracle's loss that I left.
Mr. Freak was promoted to Senior Director in June. Has he pulled the wool over the eyes of the SVP that promoted him? I doubt it. I suspect the SVP is also a perverted, incompetent freak.
If you are a customer and you want to know why your oracle applications are broken... well these are the engineering managers who were in charge of developing it. They are more interested in their perverted pastimes than in giving a sh-- about something as meaningless as the application you paid for.
They ENJOY attacking women within the company. They know HR will cover for them and they know that the upper level management enjoys the same perversion they do.
If you are a shareholder, you are right to look into what's going on in the company. It's not pretty and they will do whatever they can to cover it all up. I am sure that Mr. Creep's wh--e has a pretty good salary, though. You should take that into account.
I, though, and I'm sure the other woman working for Mr. Creep, are likely far below normal on the compensation scale. I expect Mr. Creep's wh--e gets all the bonuses, too.
I've seen some crazy s-xual harassment here. Once, a VP in Support kept forcing his hand up the skirt of an admin sitting next to him at an after work party. Everyone saw it, including at least one person who worked for HR.
When she complained formally, instead of helping her, HR called her manager who spent weeks trying to convince her to drop the issue. Thankfully she stuck to her guns and the creep was eventually given a slap on the wrist. But the way HR and her boss treated her was shameful. She soon left after that, and the guy who molested her got promoted a few years later.
Starts at the top LE and MH - talk about your basic stereotypical s-xist male chauvinists
where on earth did you get the idea that @PvRHhvU-kja is female?
or are you just trying to troll?
Really? It has nothing to do with gender and applies to everyone.
If you are not happy about your job and feel you are under appreciated at your current role, why not do something about it like finding a new job? Ranting on a layoff site about how you are not given a $5 star bucks card isn't going to help you is it?
Well, you are not as smart as you profess if that's true. Why keep being abused? With your alleged creds, go find a higher paying job somewhere else where you are appreciated.
This is exactly the kind of crap that women have to put up with when working. I wouldn't be surprised if this was a director. Shows exactly the type of company Oracle is.
They are hiding the gender gap information.
There is a very anti-female sentiment at Oracle. I was in fusion middleware, no women managers in sight, whereas I have worked for many very good female managers in the past at other companies.
I think a lot of the sentiment I see is exacerbated by a predominantly Indian management. These guys come straight out of the stone-age in terms of how they see women. They tend, then, to hire and promote other men who are also anti-female.
The last manager I worked for (Indian a--hole) talked baby talk to one woman giving a presentation. It was just disgusting. He worked to attack me and get me off his team as well as that woman who no longer works for him. As far as I know, there are no other women working in his area.
That's not because we weren't good at our jobs. Guys like this seem to be unbelievably insecure where women are concerned and they have to work to "keep them in their place". Just like @PvRHhvU-jqg below. Insults, sabotage, s-xual attacks, and all the rest. It HAS TO BE that there is a huge gender pay gap at Oracle.
Advanced degree versus peers with BS or NO degree + equal or greater experience + equal or greater job responsibilities - no a$$kissing - don't play golf or talk alot about football = lower ranking and lower pay FOR YEARS NOW!!
Well, you are not as smart as you profess if that's true. Why keep being abused? With your alleged creds, go find a higher paying job somewhere else where you are appreciated.
I know that has been true in my group! Advanced degree versus peers with BS or NO degree + equal or greater experience + equal or greater job responsibilities - no a$$kissing - don't play golf or talk alot about football = lower ranking and lower pay FOR YEARS NOW!!
One would think that being highly effective, accountable (now THAT'S a foreign word around here), productive, and takes on difficult "to the bottom line" projects would get one even a $5 raise, or a $5 bonus card at Starbucks - but NADA!!!
Clearly they won't like what the data will tell them, so better not to look!!
Obviously, they are hiding something, otherwise they would do it like other companies do.