Thread regarding General Electric Co. layoffs

Time to fix the Alstom problem

We are witnessing, real time, the not-so-slow bankrupting of an American icon GE by the European business model because GE stupidly bought an enormous, bankrupt, bloated, corporate welfare state called Alstom. GE buying Alstom was like a cheetah eating an elephant. It has taken a few years, but the reaper is now calling. In the power division, Alstom has dozens of empty factories, 10’s of thousands of heads with little or no work, no profit, no sales. Alstom lied about their steam turbine product costs, margins, factory orders, profit, project profitability and forgot to disclose the 10’s and 100’s of millions in secret charging accounts used to cover up factory over-capacity in order to make projects look profitable. Former Alstom was a shell game, a fake business, keep-the-European-masses-employed welfare corporation. Now its GE’s problem.

GE leadership needs to wake up, fast, and correct the problem. Take re-structuring money from corporate, pay the European works council fines and cut most of the bloated, inefficient European workforce. Former Alstom divisions should be cut and already empty factories closed. Former Alstom executives the ran the bankrupt Alstom business that we placed in GE leadership positions should be excused. Cut the cancer out from the core. We don’t have long…immediate action is needed now.

Yes, you folks in Aviation, healthcare, transportation, etc are all affected by the monumental mistake of buying Alstom, and you are feeling it now.

John Flannery said it himself on the Invertor call, Alstom was a disappointment…now that the problem has been admitted…it’s time to fix the problem.

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All these years we have been told how great Alstom steam turbine technology is: much better than legacy GE. Smaller, cheaper turbines with higher performance. I guess our leadership was reading too many Alstom commercial broshures. Now we had opportunity to compare actual technology on engineering level: models, drawings, real numbers, and what a surprise: current legacy GE technology was far ahead in most of the aspects: performance, reliability, operability. Only cost was a washout.

Still ex-Alstom is currently selected to lead GE steam turbine development. How much sense does it make?

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Post ID: @9kpc+QlEnocu

Acquiring a company is not "organic growth" as one of Alston posters stated. In both Power and Oil&Gas, GE acquired dogs and then wildly celebrated "Revenue Growth" in their Annual Reports.

Organic growth stems from good products and good execution based upon good understanding of customer needs.

Acquisition may indeed enable future organic growth, but of itself is a purely inorganic strategy.

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Post ID: @8nkf+QlEnocu

GE may not survive the GE Power disaster of years of bad management decisions like Alstom and all the other high cost and low efficiency that have resulted in all these bogus "cost cutting" efforts.

All of this was made by low quality GE managers who were brought in with new ideas after pushing out all the real experts. Six Sigma BS had a lot to do with it. Now GE Power has Alstom and many other offshore facilities and hugely inefficient, high cost supply chain that has outward cash flow bleeding GE dry.

GE cannot survive if GE Power cannot survive, But to survive, it will have to get rid of all these duplicate facilities like Algeria, Saudi Arabia, China and go back to making things in one place with minimum ship ocean and 500 mile truck rides of raw material and start capturing value added cash instead of bleeding cash. Alstom is one of the worst example of this dilution of synergy, and bloated cost of doing business. GE just can't make money operating like this, or having bad management that just doesn't get it.

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Post ID: @5fil+QlEnocu

When Alstom bought ABB in 1999-2000, they realized 2 years after that ABB (Baden) had hidden billons of losses in their account : "After absorbing a former unit of Swedish-Swiss ABB Group in 2000, Alstom learned of major flaws in gas turbines that the unit had sold earlier. Fixing the problem will cost Alstom at least $4.5 billion. " https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2003-07-20/can-alstom-get-back-on-track

And when GE looked to buy Alstom... they did exactly the same mistake, believing in the figures shown from Baden who had took the power within Alstom. Any guy picked-up in the streets of Belfort could have tell them not to believe it, because they remembered they were about to loose their jobs 15 years ago because of ABB turbines...

And now Flannery who led the operation is realizing he paid too much ? Unbelievable...

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Post ID: @1gro+QlEnocu

GE is not a cheetah. It's a dog that ate too much of it's own sh--. Then started eating other dogs sh--. It thinks it's sh-- is filet mignon.

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Post ID: @1nva+QlEnocu

Keep thinking that way and the ship will definitely sink.

Ruminating on what can not be changed is not helping.

Wake up, it has been 2 years now, Alstom Power does not existe anymore. All revenus have been captured by GE legacy.

It is more than time to work as one GE company, to listen each other and find solutions.

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Post ID: @1pon+QlEnocu

Ya but those GE cheetahs are fast. They can out maneuver anything in their path. I question what kind of due diligence was done that didn't see this bloated biz for what it is???

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Post ID: @uds+QlEnocu

Yes, it’s noticed. Each of those useless Alstom execs equates to 5 - 10 layoffs in the US. This is the kind of bullsh!t that enrages the average GE employee.

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Post ID: @xya+QlEnocu

Anyone else notice how many senior execs at Alstom have zero direct reports? (plus a chauffeur for the president!)

Nice work if you can get it.

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Post ID: @cre+QlEnocu

You guys are morons belfort is french alstom is in Switzerland. If you read the jp morgan report the only thing that Wall Street liked was the organic growth and the removal of a competitor that they alstom acquisition gave us. Everything didn't go perfect but as usual it's easy to blame the other guys instead of looking at what GE did. There was far more mistakes that were made than just "buying people who dont work"; mainly inventory that's what bankrupted the business. Us in the GE aftermarket made gas caps for a 150 AGPs at a time when in the first quarter we sold 10 soooooo now there's about 80 of them left over with no customer. Thats on GVL leadership not Europe.

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Post ID: @dad+QlEnocu

They can’t sneeze without asking all French and EU unions. Slows all decision making to a crawl. Like the toll booths in Blazing Saddles :)

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Post ID: @spk+QlEnocu

Yes, they had better move now if they want GE to continue to exist as more than a subtierv brand name "used under license."

Again, what would have been so bad about letting Siemens buy Alstom? It would have been a gift to us for Siemens to catch the French social disease.

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