Thread regarding Chevron Corp. layoffs

@ypcr & Xvdw, Leave if you like, but he grass is actually greener on this side.

Xvdw - you are right. Some of us want a career, not just a job. That’s why i’ll Be leaving after 2018 CIP payout.

-xvdw: I hear ya. At some level it is not about the money, but rather opportunities and recognition of the long-term effort required to become a seasoned SME. If management sees value only in management activities it is the beginning of a very bad situation for all concerned... the mindless holding meetings with the mindless to plan stupidity. It’s not about just the money, but that is certainly one metric of perceived value and priorities.

I guess I’m more ambitious and goal-oriented (in career sense) than xiih.

That’s why I’m leaving chevron (At PSG 25) and planning to do more challenging and stimulating work. After putting feelers out - job market has clearly improved for technical experts and leaders.

My salary plan this year, you ask? That’s easy. I plan to do what it takes to keep my cushy job and paycheck rollin’ in. Isn’t that what 99.9% of the world tries to do?

I am being told basically the same thing. The only current path above 25 is a management track (which is how it was ten years ago). The message is clear, hit 25 and either start butt kissing management or do the 3 hour lunch route... knuckling down on petro-tech work will get you exactly nothing!

Finished my opening PMP. My supervisor, a PSG 25, told me (also a 25) not to put too much effort into it because it would not make any difference - rules have changed and 25’s are in terminal phase of their pay and career.

@jdbn, Why not take on that job full-time? It seems to me that’s where you mind is at all times. While you are at it, ask to see if they have a room you can rent so you don’t have to leave the place. Sounds like a win-win, right?

How do you know you are in the presence of a marathon runner? Wait three seconds and they will tell you.

Good for you that you run marathons... nobody cares.

jbpo, if you're seeking a job you're at the wrong site pal. This is the place where pathetic butthurt losers lick their wounds, cry and whine like little entitled snoflakes about their predicament always being someone else's fault. Run along now. There are plenty of websites available for people who actually want to work, and are talented and ambitious. This just does not happen to be one of them.

My salary plan is to take on a part time job as locker room manager at The Gentleman's Club in Houston.

How about you two ladies get a private room so you can carry on your courtship and leave the rest of us job seekers out of it for a while.

Half marathon, how cute. Bet you have one of those stupid “13.1” stickers on the back window of your CRV.

@iycl, You are what is known as a “working stiff”. Learn to enjoy life, son. Travel, enjoy good food, exercise some, take up a hobby, read books, f--k some more. That’s right, get up on the “stage of life”. That’s what I’m doing since I retired.

I pray that when I finally retire I won’t be wasting my time on a layoff site.

Plenty of whiners around. Retired in 2016 as a PSG-25, about 5 years in grade. No complaints.

Sh!t, after 39 years and what should be a handsome retirement nest egg, I’d hand up my spurs too. What is life but to enjoy it if you can. As for working... forget it. If you still need some mental or physical exercise because you’re bored, for Christ sake, get a hobby going. Some people just don’t understand.

@hfma - You are you and I am me. What’s good for the goose is not necessarily good for the gander. I’m sure you’d concur. No smart@ss comeback.

Looks the the petrotech supp was partially restored for 25s....not sure about others who did not get a boost. That changes me from taking a salary cut this year to getting the normal little inflation offsetting raise.

My salary plan this year, you ask? No more salary for me. I’m retired after 39 years at Chevron. Glad to be out. I’m living the dream. Newly custom built home, new truck. Kids all out of college, married with good paying jobs. Enjoying my retirement and the grandchildren.

PSG 25, been meeting or exceeding PMP expectations four 4 years with no raise. Starting in April, I will begin receiving a net decrease in my annual pay. PMP is now Totally meaningless if you are in the wrong gender, racial, or age demographic group.

Listening to engineers whine about their pay is comical. You all are pretty much a dime a dozen nowadays.

The information in this thread is not entirely accurate. NOT ALL Petrotechs in the 22-24 PSG range got automatically bumped. It was ONLY those on the FE Career Ladder #5 and it did not apply to Petrotechs that are on the Project Professional Career Ladder (PPCL), which really s---s.

So in my case I'm a professional engineer with a masters degree. I have been on and off the FE Career Ladder #5 and the PPCL multiple times. As recently as 2016 I was on the FE Career Ladder but currently I'm on the PPCL. I had been getting the Petrotech supplement since it was first started. This year they took the Petrotech supplement and also did not auto-promote any Facilities Engineers / Petrotechs on the PPCL unless they were already due a promotion through the merit process.

I'm currently on an MCP and this applied to several people on my project. Not one person is happy about this. Lots of smart, hardworking petrotechs have seen their peers get this non-merit based promotion and now it has skewed all of the PSGs upward, effectively demoting those who happen to be on the PPCL at this moment in time. Life is not fair sometimes...this is one of those times.

@3nft, Really? You’re in serious departure mode now? Where to, may I ask? Who out there will pay you more than you’re getting at a Chevron PSG 25 paygrade? Why would you give up your accrued benefits and pension plan? For a PSG25 for over 10 years, you don’t seem to have the smarts to go along with that pay. Take that from someone who has been a PSG20 for the last 10 years.

This PSG 25 has waited over a decade for a promotion to PSG 26. Of course with this mess, it did not happen once again...In serious departure mode now..

What is going to happen when these new auto-promotes don't have the required job skills defined in their career ladder????

A continuing wave of retirements from the 25 yr plus ranks has gone largely unnoticed during the downturn, as most projects are on autopilot to reap the harvest already sowed. Expect those companies too myopic to retain their core SME competencies during these lean times to go madly shopping for talent when things turn around. Lucky for them Chevron’s recent treatment of their most sr earth scientists provides a broad shopping cart!

Only US payroll PSG 24 and below. Goes to show what the corporation thinks about non-US employees. How to compete for overseas postings with trumped up PSG’s when people with the same experience as you are 1-2 PSG’s higher than average.

Management is very tentative on this pay adjustment and listening closely to see how 25-27 react. Speak up if you object to it.

I think they will move some stock options down to grade 25.

Currently jump between 25 and 26 is too big it can be a bit more smooth.

@2jis - completely agree. What would have been better was a two-tier Petrotech system. So the PSG 25+ and Non-Production Petrotechs still get their smaller Petrotech bonus, avoiding morale killing paycuts. The Production Petrotechs would get a higher Petrotech bonus or supplemental Production Petrotech bonus. That would be a win-win. What was done was a huge win for some and a huge loss for others. Regardless of what slice of the pie you got, what was done was unfair.

@2jis, Just remember this simple rhyme - “Chevron’s top brass have their heads up their azz.”

It’s not as simple as being just about the money - as 1uer suggests. Most of the folks at 25 and above are ambitious and goal-oriented people. Promotions (when actually earned) and salary increases represent tangible evidence of the company’s Recognition of their hard work. The recent autopromotions have destroyed the integrity of the promotion and performance-recognition process.

It's funny seeing all these 24 25 26 PSG complaining.... you already make more money than 98 percent of people in this country I understand your chosen field and education but still you should have more than enough money so complaining bout a few thousand bucks lol

As a long term 25, overdue for a promotion, this latest effective pay cut indicates it might be a good time to start freelancing. I have more than enough in the bank to weather any rough spots. With reserves replacement way down across the board, I expect the industry to recover strong over the next decade (just as it has many times before). During the coming upswing everyone and their brother will be looking for consultants who actually know what their doing. Time to get positioned for the future rather than worrying about the past.

A needed move by corporate. 25s are drooling at the mouth to first receive stock options at 26 (assuming that they have the potential to make 26). They aren’t going anywhere. 26s and above are on career cruise control and aren’t going anywhere and likely don’t have the skill set to leave even if they wanted to. I (at psg < 25) was job hunting but immediately ceased after the 20% raise with bump. Thank you USA shale boom for making US petrotechs marketably desirable.

Petrotechs PSG 25+ and non-Production Petrotechs will make less since Petrotech supplement went away. Management should have phased out the supplement gradually for the Petrotechs not getting promotions/raises, to prevent them from taking a loss. This was completely mismanaged.

Our “Leadership” has been completely non communicative and tone-deaf on this subject. Come on managers and Team Leads, step forward and inspire your troops. Where are the true leaders?

Grade 25 and 26 will find it very difficult to get an equivalent job at another company.

Think about it how many 25/26 do you know at Chevron who were directly hired at that level in Chevron? It’s the same at any other major.

Getting rid of Petrotech bonus is an effective paycut. That's a sure way to kill morale and engagement. Existing Petrotech bonus should have been kept for those not getting the promotions and large raises.