I doubt they'd wait until after spending a ton of money training folks at the internal FastStart training in Vegas, and sending a bunch of folks to THINK, getting them all loaded up on IBM's product strategies, and then cut them. It would be a huge waste of money, not to mention IBM is well aware that most of these folks go directly to competitors. I've been told by several managers that it's already planned and imminent. That probably means prior to FastStart (which starts Feb 19). They're not letting anyone book travel yet, and this is probably why. They'll lay off, then allow whomever is left to book travel. Also the latest reorg has left obvious dead weight at the FLM level, the org charts I've seen in sales and tech sales show a lot of first-line managers with less than six reports, which is a sign there will be consolidation there, especially after more sales/tech sales are cut. I guess we'll know soon.