Just got my packet for severance and exibit A is every associate at every store that was considered for layoff. It says their position and age. Is there a lawsuit I'm unaware of? Maybe there should be. There were two people with less seniority than me in my area and I was let go.
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Lmao is right , that person is a joke like i said numerous times lol. If they read or know how too, other people posted the same thing, it was confusing, one even said its not user friendly but the elevator must not reach all the way up....for that person...there must be a brain malfunction. They will never get it again prob burnt brain cells. Only onesided but no point some people are dead fishs ,just opening and closing there mouths maybe comatosed. Wake up lol......no wonder you yawn....a sign your brain needs oxgyen.
Lmao. I can see why some people thought all those people where let go. I worked there too but let go. Thankfully I found work. Goodluck.
yawn...poor little North Jersey just can’t admit s/he was wrong🤫🤭🤥
Wahaaa people still being let go. So numbers climb. Maybe you cant read as someone stated before they gave this book with no explantions lots of people i worked with thought all those people where let go. People get there feathers all ruffed up for no reason. To sensitive, people would never survive in the nyc area with all the scarstism, they would go home crying everyday lol. Whaaaa
I don't care if you think I'm right or not. I am right. Read your packet if you were cut. Let me try to dumb it down to fifth grade reading to see if this helps...
Your Exhibit A document has TWO COLUMNS. Severance ELIGIBLE and Not Severance Eligible.
The column for “Not Severance Eligible” were the people who were RETAINED and NOT CUT after everyone in BOTH of the two columns was considered for layoff.
Everyone who was let go went into the Severance Eligible column, because everyone cut WAS ELIGIBLE for some kind of severance - minimum 2 weeks. NO ONE was let go without SOME KIND of severance eligibility.
Not Severance Eligible=Not Cut. These people ARE STILL EMPLOYED. THEY WERE NOT CUT.
Does this help? SMH
simply said the fact is you told everyone that there were 300 pages of people laid off. yes it was bad but not as bad as you made it out to be. if you had wanted to be accurate you would have stated the real number of layoffs from that exhibit A document but you made it sound as if everyone listed in those 300 pages was laid off - just not the case... and all this "tuna can" reference...what are you drinking? go away.
O sorry I forgot 5 more people by your count, stings for them lol or maybe not because I said 200 and you say 105 so guess not bad when only 105...they got canned prob eating from tuna can
Wow I guess doesn't mean anything for the 100 people that lost there job.....lol I sure they are happy ask them but the btch and complaining i think they care. What a joke you are. Weird I still don't think your right but who cares i worked there part time. Macy's def closing in yr or two if you don't think so ....again wake up from that coma you are in.
Funny how we hear nothing from North Jersey after he was proved wrong....lol. Crickets.
The column for “Not Severance Eligible” were the people who were RETAINED after everyone in BOTH of the two columns was considered for layoff. Everyone who was let go went into the Severance Eligible column, everyone cut was eligible for some kind of severance. Not Severance Eligible=Not Cut.
There’s no way to know how many of those people in the Severance Eligible column were able to be saved. Document dated January 26th. We were able to keep two of our 24 associates on our stores Severance Eligible list after we got notices from two of the Not Severance Eligible Associates, one who got another job and another who decided to retire. This opened up their jobs for two of the people getting cut. They were thrilled.
The stores on this document are in alphabetical order and not divided up by region or district. Someone would have to sit down with the document and manually pull out each store in their region and tally up the X’s in the Severance Eligible column to see how many in each store were being cut. And again, no way to know who ended up getting a last minute save.
The list is easy to interpret, it’s just not user friendly.
For the poster RvwLlY7-6pfy who stated "You ONLY count the SEVERANCE ELIGIBLE.." I also had difficulty interpreting what "Exhibit A" actually was. When I flipped through it during my exit interview and looked at my store I only saw around ten or so positions listed for the whole store and that is about the same amount of people who were cut. So I can see why someone who saw 200 positions listed in Paramus might think that all 200 were laid off. It was a very confusing document. Some of the positions in our store were marked with a marker but there were other positions that were cut that were not marked. I don't think the person who did my exit interview knew what "Exhibit A" was either. I thought the "severance eligible" column meant that employee was eligible for a severance payout. But your interpretation (which is probably correct) is that severance eligible means they were eligible to be laid off regardless of whether they were eligible for a severance package. In looking at "exhibit A" how is one able to determine which positions were actually cut out of all the ones eligible to be cut? It would be nice if Macy's made that document publicly available through in-site or something. I would appreciate it if someone who knows how to interpret the document could report on the numbers of some of the Macy's South stores. Maybe northeast stores took a larger hit. But thank you to everyone who has posted here it has been very informative.
Paramus Park - 49 hourly associates severance eligible.
Garden State - 56 hourly associates severance eligible.
You ONLY count the SEVERANCE ELIGIBLE column for the people who were eligible to be let go, and even then some may have been placed before they were actually termed (we saved two at our store from our stores list of people). I counted these twice to make sure and this is correct. you did NOT lay off 200 people at that location or not even 200 at both of these stores combined.
I still haven't signed my severance. I intend to leave the sh-- behind from a sh--ty job. I was amazed they didn't run out of paper printing all those pages.
Not 300 pages of people fired. It’s 300 pages of all the positions considered for layoff and its notated who was laid off and who wasn’t. It’s both who was kept and who was laid off.
Lol.....I just took out my packet and counted up to 200 people at a paramus store to make sure I was right...... once again people are living in la la land lol. I worked there part time but was cut too ...but who cares business was so slow so they cut people. No one ever says they wouldn't fire you not at Macy's or any other job you never know.
Hello that was before i recieved that book.....look up garden state plaza or paramus park..... in the book . 300 pages of people fired u must be blind then . Rumor was 50 shock to see 300 hundred pages.....yes 300 pages of people fired.....about 60 per page times 300 u do the math....what a joke
@RvwLlY7-2hoa...North Jersey you posted this identical thing on another thread and said 50 people laid off, now it’s all of a sudden 200 on this thread......I’m looking at my Exhibit A document and you are lying through your teeth. That store did NOT lose 200 people.
@RvwLlY7-2suz, it’s combined for scheduling purposes only. The job cuts or eliminations are by beauty line. So even though all your schedule areas might be 0400, your job payroll accounts are still by the vendor you work for. Our entire cosmetics department is schedulearea 0400, but we have 0404 Lancôme, 0493 Lauder/Clinique, and Fashion Fair, and Clarins, and they all were cut separately and exclusive of each other. The other 2FT you mentioned work for a different cosmetics line, correct? Then your cut was done correctly because you cannot bump people on a different vendor line. Does this help you understand better now?
The days of counters are over ...Macy’s is moving to open sell concept...hence the layoffs....this is not rocket science to figure out folks. Shoes is headed in the way of no need for staffing and so is cosmetics. Stay woke
Do people live in la la land.....its business not personal. In paramus nj over 200 people let go....business is in the dumpster which equals no money so no need for employees.......wake up from your coma....
I guess my question is that my area is a combined area it's one department number one schedule with two other areas. They are not considering the two other areas as part of my department. My direct area has 2ft 1pt and they cut one full time (me) i have less seniority than the other ft so this makes perfect sense. However there are 2ft in the other area that we are combined with and I have more seniority than them. So I guess my question is how can it be one area but also not?
@RvwLlY7-1hdt Can you give more info? How many jobs were cut on your line and how many people are on that line that were considered to be cut? Need to know this to be able to answer. You can ask to be told what your PGA score was. The poster below has good information. In our store on Lancôme we have a counter manager, 2 ft and 1 Pt. The counter manager stayed because it was a Counter manager job. We cut 1 Ft job, so those 2 Ft associates went through PGA, and the most senior associate kept her job and the other was cut. Seniority is the biggest part of PGA but it also looks at your last review score and also whether you are on any disciplinary write ups. Then the one PT job was cut. Only one Pt on the line so she was the one to go. No PGA needed sine it was one person and one job. Does this help?
@RvwLlY7-1hdt....attendance has nothing to do with it. Are you FT or PT and how many of the same were on your line? For example, if one Ft job on Lancome was cut and there was only one person employed as a Ft in Lancome, that's the person that was cut (job elimination).. But if there's 2 or more FT associates on Lancome and one or more jobs are being cut, that's when PGA is used. The displaced FT cannot bump a FT on another line or a PT on the same line.
Perhaps they had less seniority but their performance was better. Just being there longer is not the be all and end all.
Im in cosmetics. Is PGA the point system used to determine who goes? I keep hearing about it but no one will explain what it is. I'm top sales and credit and have forty attendance points. So i can't figure out how they decided.
If two people with less seniority were retained and your an hourly associate, that means you are in a department done by PGA. Are you in Jewlery Complex, Shoes, Cosmetics, or Big Ticket?
This document is required by law, and it is referred to as "The birthday list." The purpose is to show the ages of all employees who are being laid off, and age, to prove that all ages are included in the layoff. This happened to me last year.
Waahaaa someone play the violin....wake up business is slow not at macys all retail so business are firing employees.....if you owned a business and could not pay employees u would have to let them go....maybe you can work for free lol....
I believe we are required to provide that list (exhibit A) to everyone offered a severance. A legal requirement.