Thread regarding Honeywell International Inc. layoffs

Honeywell gives more in 401k, but like usual it is really taking away.

Here is the newest policy for 401k matching from Honeywell. They increased the match but only issue the match once a year. you loose the stacks any stock gain, the dividends and you loose it if you leave before that time. As usual they make it sound like they are give you something but it is you loosing something.

"Dear Colleague:

As announced in Darius’ January 8 Global Town Meeting, Honeywell will be enhancing the standard match formula in the Honeywell 401(k) Plan for eligible participants effective on or about April 6, 2018.

This is great news for our U.S. participants. It marks the third increase in the Company match since the Great Recession and reflects the sustained improvements we have been able to make in our performance as well as passage in December 2017 of comprehensive tax reform within the U.S.

The new match is outlined below:

· For those currently at 75 percent of the first 8 percent of eligible pay (maximum 6 percent match), the match will increase to 87.5 percent of the first 8 percent (maximum 7 percent match).

· For those currently at 37.5 percent of the first 8 percent of eligible pay (maximum 3 percent match), the match will increase to 43.75 percent of the first 8 percent (maximum 3.5 percent match).

In addition, rather than having a match each pay period, any match will be paid annually in a lump sum by the end of the January following the calendar year. This benefit rewards loyal employees who choose to remain at Honeywell with an increased match formula. To be eligible for any match for a given year, participants generally need to remain actively employed by Honeywell through and including December 15 of that year.

Finally, the 12-month waiting period for new plan participants to become eligible for matching contributions will be removed, including for participants currently within the 12-month period.

We encourage everyone who is eligible to take advantage of the 401(k) plan – it is an essential retirement savings tool.

For more information, refer to these Frequently Asked Questions, visit the 401(k) website via HR Direct, or contact HR Help at 1-877-258-3699 (option 1) with any questions.

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Post ID: @OP+Rw4mNKi

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The reality is that HW has transformed stock "match" (like vacation) from an entitlement (i.e. earned income) into a bonus, because by their own admission they can take it away at their discretion - and given their track record, they will regularly as a cost-saving measure. Meanwhile they can continue to lure in new employees with a "stock match". Now, a 7% annual bonus is not too bad - unless you using it to replace 6% of earned income. The big problem is that, as usual, HW lies about it, claiming they are actually increasing our benefits. It's the constant lying that really pisses me off.

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Post ID: @2vjd+Rw4mNKi

I think the most insidious aspect of this change is that it constitutes the elimination of the last shred of profit-sharing for rank-and-file employees. Band 4 and above (i.e. management) get a share of the year's profits as a bonus at year end; non-management now get a great big goose egg. Think about that before you jump on this sinking ship, perspective Honeywell employee.

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Post ID: @1odl+Rw4mNKi

Clearly they have determined that they are no longer able to earn the loyalty of their employees, and they are instead reduced to holding everyone hostage. Sad.

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Post ID: @1azv+Rw4mNKi

Yes, this company is being run by souless scumbags who wouldn't be able to hack it outside of Honeyhell. You see, Honeyhell welcomes greedy, shortsighted halfwits into the leadership ranks; the entire company is filled with them. A VP in HON is the equivalent of a middle manager in a real company and that's why this place is being ran like a big clown show.

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Post ID: @fip+Rw4mNKi

There will probably be an '*' to say that you can't be or have been on a PIP, can't be in the outer elbow or........

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