How many of you who are over 50 years old (or getting there) are being targeted by management with either bogus write-ups, bad reviews after receiving nothing but good reviews, or other actions that make you feel you are being targeted?
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I'm in the same boat. Been getting great reviews, then suddenly wasn't qualified for the same promotions being offered to my peers. No explanation. No performance deficits. Just older.
It appears that if you have enough corporate lawyers you can get away with anything you want. The Farm is engaging in blatant harassment of older workers and isn't even trying to hide it.
Someone was talking about a class action lawsuit for the older workers? Has anyone heard anything about that?
I never thought the company I gave everything to would do this to me.
Couple of things to note.. SF is the most non-complaint company I have ever worked for. And I do have written proof of it. I would never put $1 into any business with the Farm.
Secondly, you do have the right to record a conversation about your personal performance, I. Fact they warn us of that in Leadership classes. You just need to state on the recording that you are recording the conversation and the manager cannot decline that request. Make sure to get the decline on audio if that occurs. They can’t do much to contest that if they aren’t willing to have a performance discussion with you if they will be recorded. Good luck to everyone. My prayers are with you.
To build on the last post. Check out the "Eight is Great" scandal at Wells Fargo. How soon til something like this happens at State Farm?
The compliance remark below is something I relate to. It is funny, while executive is making us take so many compliance classes and are monitoring everything, the push to do more with less is forcing people to do things are not compliant. Wells Fargo anyone.
I never thought this company would treat me (and everyone else my age) who have been dedicated employees the way they have.
I mourn the loss of what SF once once, when I am finally released, I can only hope there's decent severance.
I have already read/heard that there is a much better life after State Farm, but it is so hard not to fee betrayed and sad.
"I am getting in trouble for doing what I am told with vague remarks.""
BINGO! You do what you are told, then you are told that's wrong and are told to do something else, then that's wrong. Then all of a sudden there is a list of things you've done wrong and are told that you aren't cooperating.
Oh how I wished I had started documenting conversations with my manager. I honestly had no idea that someone/an organization could be that deceptive and destructive to people who have shown them loyalty.
Why weren't we recording conversations? Depending on what state you are in, it is illegal.
"Fruit of the poisoned tree" (illegally obtained evidence) makes any evidence, no matter how damning against State Farm inadmissible in court, and might even be grounds for dismissal.
As soon as you get that first BS write up, start looking for another job. That means you are out the door. There's nothing you can do about it and HR is there to protect the farm, not the employees (especially not the older employees)
If they started writing me up for bogus reasons, I'd just tell them to go ahead and fire me if that was their longterm objective because everyone can see what's going on around here and there's no reason for the pretense. Just grow a pair and sack me.
Of course, I have a history of saying reckless things to my managers. A long while back, I worked at an office that was closed. On the day of the announcement, I stood up and told the VP that it was clear they'd been lying to us all for months and that they must have thought we were stupid trying to pass off their nonsense as the truth. He basically told me to sit down and shut up, in not so many words.
I can't say I was sorry to see him get blown out in the recent buy-out.
I outlasted his sorry butt by at least 2 months.
Everyone has iPhones. Why doesn’t everyone audio record the conversations surreptitiously?
The sudden write ups are the first clue that you are on the chopping block. It's your word against your manager's and they don't even have to back up their assertions; it's your word against theirs and HR is only there to save the company's @$$
I am over 50 and was targeted then fired. It started with being suddenly written up for mentioning obvious claim elements and exposure on serious injury claim (wage loss, etc) in the claim evaluation (previously praised for my evaluation style) and now it was suddenly inappropriate and unethical? I think the hurt person and the courts would disagree. TM went straight to memo no discussion. So I immediately adapted to TM request and was then written up for being a few dollars off on Haniff lien I was trying to calculate from incomplete and contradictory documents, hundreds of pages (in between hunt calls). They can pick any one isolated file or a few late calendar or mail tasks and make it sound like it is a trend. You need to ask for specifics and if they do not give them then document that in writing. I wish I had done more of that. I miss my job but am glad to be out of the artificially created pressure cooker matrix world of constant time measurement. Good luck.
If you are over 50 you will never get a promotion and they will likely drive you out if you have a job that someone else wants or needs.
It's common knowledge that they want to get rid of older/more expensive employees. The ones they aren't buying out on the layoffs are getting 1s on their EPRs or are getting shield memos for perceived infractions so they can eventually be let go. This happened to a couple of friends of mine who are rockstars and leaders. There's no apparent reason behind it other than their age.
You mean like getting written up for obscure and bogus things to gain enough ammo to fire you when they feel like it? The last month or so it's been ridiculous and it's nerve wracking to sit and wait for when they finally have enough ammo to do you in so they can hire someone younger and cheaper or replace with with someone with a family connection who's job is going away.
I received my first bad review in all the years I've been with the company.
When I asked my manager for examples of what I was doing wrong or what people didn't like, I was given none just "I can't think if it right now, but that was the perception"
Really, you can't think if it, but you just trashed me in my review?
I am following compliance rules and department plan. However, I am getting in trouble for doing what I am told with vague remarks. I feel there is no where to go. I will not break compliance because that will be a direct trip out the door. Rock and a hard place. I just need a couple of more years. I have invested too much of my life to the company.
They dropped “Murder, She wrote” from the lineup? DehMahdNow!