Thread regarding State Farm Insurance layoffs

Missing the big picture

I once saw a de-motivational poster that read: No single drop of rain believes it is responsible for the flood. In a different light it is raining and there is a flood occurring but we are all caught up in our own departmental drama to notice it.

The reality is that 1200 families related to systems are going to be impacted in this go round and don't believe for a second that it will be the last. Yes, there are some claims jobs moving in, some other work from the northwest, and there will be more positions in the hubs if you want to move. This impacts more than the employee though, it affects the families, extended families & community as well.

Now, here is the flood part: There is a sh-- ton more going on than just systems - There are 3000 families related to Proximity that are impacted. This includes Weather, Fire & Estimatics proximity. Don't forget L&D (think Trainers) as well as Re-inspection. Don't forget the families in the Northwest, or Parsippany with those offices closing. I know there are other departments & offices being impacted, let's work to pull that information together in one place and get a true picture of what is going on.

Please, can we dispense with the interdepartmental jabbing and pull together some basic information as to who all is impacted already, who else will be impacted, and what non-hub offices will be closing. With an expanding economy we are cutting a very large amount of people and I think we should pull together that information to get a clearer picture of what is going on across the enterprise.

None of this means I am happy for you that you kept your job (this time), or that I am not concerned that you are impacted and will either have to find something else within the company or leave. I think we all need to know what is safe (for now), what is not safe, as well as where not to scramble to when trying to find a seat on the bus.

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Post ID: @OP+S7ymfQM

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Ad services from what I understand will love entirely to Hubs. However what capacity they are needed and numbers is anyone's guess. Underwriting is currently working to implement Guide wire. Two year tail. Possible announcements on implementation this year. Implementation next year and of it works. Hammer falls second or third quarter 2019. Bank going through a study and other claim support functions. I think the call centers are safe though no word on those.

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Post ID: @2zlo+S7ymfQM

@S7ymfQM-1kjw

It wasn't meant to make anyone feel better. One of the benefits of the site is to actually put things together and better understand things.

You are spot on though. The field people who are inexperienced need trainers--now a lot is "supposed" to be on TM. Many TM have little or no field experience--products of many designations.

I know in our area field trainers are underutilized--they have to track people down to do ride alongs.

The fact Reinspection has gone down from nearly 200 to 100 or so seems to point to a question of how long they will be needed.

The responsibility may go to IA firms to provide trained claim reps if things go more to IA's being used.

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Post ID: @1fok+S7ymfQM

@S7ymfQM-1awt - Well, that gives me the warm fuzzies. There will be no Trainers in the field, and less than half the re-inspectors that there are now. The trainer in my area is a guru on Xactimate. But we don't need any help like that anymore now do we? On the plus side, there will still be some re-inspectors around to gig you for not knowing the things the Trainers could have helped you with...

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Post ID: @1kjw+S7ymfQM

They have not moved all Reinspection to hubs. I have heard trainers are moving in office.

The Reinspector role has been cut in half over past 18 months or so. They have many more who may be without a job. However, they have not moved the role to be entirely in office.

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Post ID: @1awt+S7ymfQM

All L&D Proximity (think trainers) and Re-Inspection being moved to the hubs, don't know exact number. Think about what this means - the company doesn't care about the quality of work being done in the field, or training the reps that remain. I think this sends a clear message that there is no long term viability for Fire Field Proximity.

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Post ID: @1dpk+S7ymfQM

SR is cutting about 60 with more than half of those being management.

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Post ID: @1ddc+S7ymfQM

I don’t work in ad services but heard through the grapevine that they are moving 100% or internal jobs to the hubs. This will result in who knows how many terminations. I imagine they will flatten the leadership structure as they’ve done in other areas as well. Make your own guess about what the numbers will look like

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Post ID: @1jof+S7ymfQM

Public Affairs cut 15 jobs earlier this year from the external communication side.

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Post ID: @nhq+S7ymfQM

The last post nailed it. Hundreds of new externals have started in 2018 to fill the void of technical roles that BA's are not qualified for.

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Post ID: @czr+S7ymfQM

People keep saying BLM is losing 890. That's true, as long as we keep in mind that this is "net jobs lost."

As many as 1200 people may end up being terminated. In truth, it will be less than 1200 (as I know some that have already gotten offers), but all we've been told for certain is that 1200 will be terminated from over-staffed roles and 310 will be hired into understaffed roles, for a net 890. But in my opinion, there's no way 310 of those 1200 are going to qualify for the mostly technical understaffed roles. Some of those will come from elsewhere.

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Post ID: @wmh+S7ymfQM

Nope.. does not include those. Good point

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Post ID: @buf+S7ymfQM

Does that include the 225 P&M positions they already cut from IT?

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Post ID: @jed+S7ymfQM

IT prof/tech: Bloomington is losing 890. Expected net reduction 500 across all hubs. At the management level, 25-30% reduction in first line leaders and directors. Around 10 executive level persons retired. So-- close to 1000 overall? Maybe more..

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Post ID: @qct+S7ymfQM

like the info on your departments - could you add some context for your numbers for example - proximity is going down from roughly 8000 to 5000, a decrease of 3000 or +/- 38%. As to the haters - trolls will be trolls....

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Post ID: @rzq+S7ymfQM

HR cuts a couple of months ago were 75 total positions.

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Post ID: @pqc+S7ymfQM

Plenty of jobs here in my city. I have local connections and family and friends in HR and recruiting with a finger on the pulse of it. This has nothing to do with what some politician or TV talking head told me.

Bloomington is another story, but if you're in a big city there is zero reason to be afraid. Just use your network and you'll likely find several companies in your city are hiring, unless you're going through some type of regional depression.

As far as the OP goes: while I totally appreciate the sentiment of solidarity, no single rain-drop--in actuality--is responsible for the flood. I blame the damned weather system... in this case, the executives. They've created their own micro-weather.

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Post ID: @keo+S7ymfQM

L&D... Almost 1/3 total reduction in staff. Accomplished by a reduction of more than 50% of management.

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Post ID: @yqv+S7ymfQM

About that "Expanding economy" narrative...

Layoffs in:

Tech- Check

Healthcare-Check

Education-Check

Finance/Insurance-Check

Retail-Check

Real Estate-Check

Manufacturing-Check

Oil and Gas- Double check

Need I go on?

Oh but the talking head on TV told you the economy is "BOOMING!" and you choose to believe that rather than what your own eyes see in front of your own face.

Ever heard of "Fake news"? Ever consider that politicians lie? And when you get a whole bunch of them together in one place called Government, all you have is a bunch of liars in one place.

They'd never lie would they?

Nah....

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