Thanks Mkiz, I have 15 years at a service company before this so at this point I am just waiting to make it to the next stop (downturn). Looking at the number of retirements in my speciality I think chevron is stuck with me for a while :-)
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That’s it @mlik. Keep up your good work and that your train doesn’t run out of track for another 25 years.
In ten years with CVX I have ten 2’s and I am on my 2nd expat.
Yeah it’s dissapointing to me to never get a 2+ at least, but as long as the gravy train is flowing that is what matters.
@kzmd is trying to con qualified candidates into not applying so his poor performing self can have a chance at a nice assignment.
2’s or 2+’s on PMP do not prevent you from getting an expat assignment. That is BS.
The PDCs have come roaring back. Heaps of overseas jobs in all locations and across quite a few pay grades in March. October should be even better. Africa, Latin America, Asia, Australia, Europe. Take your pick, assuming your job performance justifies an expat position (e.g. no 2s).
Yep- jbie. Good point. Look at what happened with SJVBU and GOMBU. Word on the street is that Angola is about to be either divested or put into NOJV status. Venezuela is a complete basket case. The company's moves are great for shareholders but not necessarily great for employees (especially if you want to go work overseas).
Hey nobody cares what you think nor why you left now stop wasting time and get back to work.
Interesting discussion. I recently left old Chevron and lurk here from time to time to see what dirt is going down at the company. Anyway, the reason I left is because I realized about a year ago that this company is fundamentally changing and it was either get out or face a pretty stagnant career over the next 5 years.
Look at JW and MW did to the company after the price of oil bombed out. They have been selling assets like crazy to maintain the dividend. Chevron is a smaller, more concentrated company than it once was. A smaller company means way less opportunity for future movement. The PDCs while I was there were pretty jam packed with a lot of people not getting placed.
Also what are the main future areas of growth for the company? Midland and Tengiz. That's pretty much it. I had zero desire to move to crappy Midland or go work in super unaffordable San Ramon so it was time for me to go. Best decision I have made in a long time.
People leave because when they see and hear that many of their hard-working and innovative colleagues often go decades without a promotion they examine their own path and often come to a similar conclusion. Unless you're long term goal is to use this company as a case-study in organizational disfunction I would recommend that new non-petrotech graduates look elsewhere.
Y R early careers leaving Chevron? Because they can. Sometimes the grass is greener. Sometimes not. Younger set sees the world differently than boomers. Hard for mgmt to get their head around.
-cspz, I didn’t contribute the max, but after retiring, Chevron is paying me double my annuity amount due. This so far has been going on for 35 months.
btqf, What's so glamorous about it? Better than Shell, XOM, ENI, Saudi Aramco, BP-Am., etc. etc.? Most of the disgruntled employees who post here would say just the opposite. I think that many have a job at Chevron because it's the best offer that they had, period, and can't do any better. Whether that's a comment about the leniency of CVX or about the ability of the employee is for you to decide. You are mistaken about those qualified for pensions. Put in your time. Relax. Contribute the max. You'll be fine.
People stick around because the glamour telling everyone you work for chevron. The fact is the non country club worker bee positions in the us provide mediocre salary, and bonuses. The pension carrot is a fantasy. The days of working at a company for 15 plus years are over
Curious that the early career exodus from the new GOMBU is happening after the PSG bump that also comes with higher CIP percentage eligibility.
@arcv, different than what? than you? than someone else? Bigotry and racism against whom? We all know that in modern progressive work environments like at CVX the minorities and women get first chance, first choice, and first shot at promotions,etc, it's been that way for quite some time. It was like that when I hired on 36 years ago and only increased every decade. I have nothing against promoting anyone if they are qualified but CVX goes above and beyond that for the protected classes and promotes those many times regardless of merit. I have learned to just live with it. It's the way of the world today.
S--- it up, junior, Don't you still get a paycheck and benefits?
Bullying, harassment and bigotry. Selective persecution based on prejudice and hate of anyone different without thought for consequence later on. Work place fatalities, MCP failure after failure. No support, development, training or competitive pay. Why Stay?
1fpb, After reading the post that you referred to, it is obvious that you perfectly described yourself in your post! Good description of yourself, no one knows you better than you!
1udm, I don't don't why people hire me, such as for the high-paying position with better benefits that I have now after leaving Chevron voluntarily. Perhaps it's the 37 years that I have in O&G and 3 degrees that makes me such an idiot, but whatever it is, it has served me well and I wouldn't change a thing!
E-color and personality diversity indicators (PDI) is social engineering bull crap. More peddling of the leftist globalist group think at Chevron.
@2bcx, hint... none of the e-color stuff matters.
Millenials like to swap companies frequently. When they quit we just hire a replacement. Not really an issue.
Red is the only E-Color that matters here. They can talk a good line, like they're giving a college recruiting speech, or designing a brochure, but Reds are the ones getting promoted.
I got sick of the bullying, persecution and harassment. Was glad to leave. I've seen on the news what happens when a culture starts to believe certain people are easy and acceptable targets. I didn't want to be in the office when that comes back at Chevron.
I wouldn’t say they are leaving in droves but our BU has seen 4 early career or horizons petrotechs leave since The CIP bonus payout and the sweet paygrade adjustment. But i am not watching the entire company like -turj.
The RSI Girls at other companies pale in comparison to what we have here. Don't do it.
I can’t think of anyone early career who has left. Quite the contrary, they are busting down the doors to get in!
fmu is obviously someone with no qualifications, unemployed, no life and no prospects. A washed up nothing nobody who sits with his keyboard all day churning out verbal garbage.
Whatever the reasons, early career people are leaving and the pace is picking up. I dont think its about the money. But 1-msr is correct. There are pompous ssholes in any corporation, so dont be surprised if your new boss is an even bigger sshole. Especially if he or she is of a certain age.
Imsr - why don't you use your severance to get an education you clown. Seriously, why would anyone hire an idiot like you.
Wow. Reading these comments suggests to me that no one posting here has a clue about how every major corporation in the world works. Are you guys all that naive? New-hires? Seriously? Go work somewhere else, tough guys. Who's stopping you? Put your money where your mouth is or shut it!
It's the damn golden hand-cuff syndrome at play. Once you've had your soul crushed for the umpteenth time you say effit and just do your job and leave at 5. Then somehow after you stopped caring you get a 1 in your calibration meeting and they s---er you into trading your evening hours and life for another 1 all the while thinking that you have just one more to bump you into mid-twenties PSG. Run people. You can never run from hard work, but you can change the compensation to effort ratio in your favor.
What are the complaints of the millenials? How is the grass greener at ConocoPhillips or Apache?
The 8% company contribution to the 401k and the Chevron Pension are the biggest reasons, by far, why employees stick it out with the company no matter what. The more years you have vested, the harder it would be to want to leave. For crying out loud, the salary range is already very competitive with the industry and other high paying competitors.
When job security and short term career oportunity is stripped away, Chevron loses thier competitive advantage. The pension continues to be the reason others haven't found better opportunities.