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Oracle Solaris is 100% supported and alive

So much for all the FUD that Solaris is dead when it has a new roadmap which is detailed, predictable, and committed. Please now stop all this anti-Oracle rants that occur when these details are published as you simply do not have a clue.

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ZDL here again just wanted to say I was very sad to see what happened to Sparc and Solaris. I think both were great and they played a huge role in my career. I understand that time marches on and good technologies become obsolete but that doesn't diminish how good they were. I didn't get RIFd but I did leave because of it,. I'll always have a place in my heart for what a fantastic place Sun was and all the smart, funny people I worked with there.

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"Oracle Solaris is 100% supported and alive. So much for all the FUD that Solaris is dead when it has a new roadmap which is detailed, predictable, and committed. Please now stop all this anti-Oracle rants that occur when these details are published as you simply do not have a clue."

yes, sure thing.

just like Oracle Roadmap for SPARC was detailed, public and published.... ouch, sorry dear customers, we decided to kill M9 (and please, don't tell me about that joke named M8+). you know dear customer, we don't commit to roadmap, we have that fantastic disclaimer that is legally freeing us to commit on whatever we present to customers, publicly or under NDA. it's your fault if you haven't read it.

btw, the detailed Solaris roadmap, just like any other detailed SW roadmap from Oracle, is NOT public nor published. everything you can find on the internet is a leakage, more or less made on purpose but still a leakage. if it was public, even you would have been able to recognize the death of Solaris in 2017, and its life-maintainance mode from since on. wanna talk about docker? openstack? all other features that were planned for S12?

you must be a troll, or you must be joking. Solaris IS dead, or better said, is in coma state under life-maintainance... and only because of Fujitsu....

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Post ID: @1bdn+SM4jKLR

zdl is correct. I worked with Solaris from 2.5.1 up to the first release of 11. There is no comparison. Went from a global Development and Support group of thousands to a commodity OS supported offshore for as low cost as possible. What happened to using Solaris as a cloud OS?

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Post ID: @1kfe+SM4jKLR

The future "releases" are just bug fix releases created by the combination of the old sustaining org + the small number of devs that didn't get fired or have left since.

One unreported fact about Solaris development is that many of the decent engineers that survived the big purge have since left Oracle. They are now trying to hire more people in India.

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Post ID: @1jea+SM4jKLR

Oh please. Solaris is a dying OS. Sure they are going to pump out new "releases" to keep certain high paying banks happy for a while, but those banks are going to eventually move off Solaris - maybe not tomorrow, but probably in 5 years at most. It may still survive in a small way for a small niche of customers. But it's never going to be what it once was.

I worked at Sun/Oracle for a long time. I loved Solaris. But no matter what they say now, they RIF'd most of the development org last year and it's footprint will only get smaller over time. They've combined sustaining and the few remaining dev groups into one org. It's a legacy OS now.

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Post ID: @zdl+SM4jKLR

OpenVMS has a roadmap too

That is REALLY unfair to VMS. OpenVMS is seeing a lot of development work these days. It is actively being ported to new architectures and has a entire company behind it, VMS SOFTWARE, who's very existence depends on its success. Security updates are shipping in a timely manner and customer bugs are still being fixed by HPE and VMS Software. No "file and forget" like Solaris bugs these days. The investment in OpenVMS is growing (even as it shifts from HPE to VMS Software) while the resources Oracle invests in Solaris are shrinking every quarter. These are opposite trajectories.

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Post ID: @pgi+SM4jKLR

committed, recurring timeline

Where? Got a URL?

Besides, Oracle breaks commitments all the time. Why do you think so many of our customers file lawsuits against us.

I might believe Solaris is still alive when a production ready update (no beta!) with new features is delivered. And no, updating Firefox doesn't count. They are already years behind on the earlier commitments they made regarding these new (S12) features. New commitments alone impress only the gullible.

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Post ID: @gkf+SM4jKLR

OP:

So much for all the FUD that Solaris is dead when it has a new roadmap

OpenVMS has a roadmap too:

https://www.vmssoftware.com/

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Post ID: @aje+SM4jKLR

I think they're referring to the more recent release schedule which has a committed, recurring timeline. Even I have to admit Oracle is committed to Solaris after reviewing it.

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Post ID: @hhf+SM4jKLR

Are you talking about this? https://www.oracle.com/assets/sparc-roadmap-slide-2076743.pdf

LOL...did,you miss the little blurb t the top of that so-called “roadmap”?

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The following is intended to outline our general product direction. It is intended for information purposes only, and may not be incorporated into any contract. It is not a commitment to deliver any material, code, or functionality, and should not be relied upon in making purchasing decisions. The development, release, and timing of any features or functionality described for Oracle’s products remains at the sole discretion of Oracle.

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