customers are not stupid!!
"...Real cloud companies rent their infrastructure, build platforms customers and other vendors can build on, then sell software as a service on the platforms. Oracle’s cloud is the opposite. It’s a system for selling Oracle’s software as a service, with less than half the research and development spending of either Amazon or Alphabet..."
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People know cloud is dead. Other employees have told me they are just hanging out waiting for their packages.
No Oracle has no chance of catching up. Just look at the numbers, Oracle is so far behind. Only $2 billion invested. And then on top of that a lot of the initial applications are built by Oracle employees re-purposed from on-premise work. Honestly the web development skill set is completely different. A lot was built on top of ADF.
It just isn't going to happen. If there had been reasonable technical direction from the start, a group of web developers hired into the company to train others and bring people on board, I think it could have been done, but the management is either too incompetent to do it in an organized way or they just had no intention of really building anything that really worked.
It's not going to happen. Oracle has already lost, there will be quarter after quarter of lower than expected cloud revenue from here on out. They can try to prop things up with fake cloud numbers, maybe buying other cloud companies, but the in-house development at Oracle has failed.
@ 1oeh
I wish we could upvote your post it’s very factual and accurate.
Thank you.
If the competitors to AWS, Google has spent $31 billion on cloud infrastructure. Microsoft $15 billion. Oracle $2 billion. Oracle does not have the capacity or the number of data centers necessary to compete except in a few niche areas, such as running Exadata appliances in Oracle's data centers. That is not "cloud" as you get an appliance with fixed capacity (e.g. storage), not capacity on demand and not automatic scaling.
"Cloud 2.0" or "Bare Metal Cloud" is also just hosted hardware. It's a hardware company trying to sell hardware and calling it "cloud". Its capacity, certifications (e.g. Fedramp, HIPAA), and basic networking capabilities are way behind the competition. Most Oracle cloud services run on the old 1.0 cloud in data centers in Ashburn and Chicago that are leased from Equinix, not in the 2.0 data center in Phoenix. There is nothing here that is not offered by other vendors. The only unique advantage that IBM or Oracle cloud offers is the ability to run their proprietary appliances like mainframe and Exadata in someone else's data center, at a very high cost of course. This is a shrinking niche market.
"eah, oracle is going to lead the tech stock crash when LE, SC and MH are led away in handcuffs for cloud fraud."
Strong the sour grapes are with this one.
"autonomous database is here and it is crushing competition. "
so if all you reported is true, can you tell me why no one single customer is moving to this fantastic new Oracle Cloud offering?
and, if all you reported is true, and a customer can save up to 80% in pure bill to AWS, then why Oracle is actually LOSING cloud market share, even to IBM?
oh, yes, I know. customers are a bunch of idiots, and have not understood the fantastic offering from Oracle.
or, maybe, MAYBE, customers are not so idiot and they know that:
Oracle cloud is just a joke, not working and not secure at all
80% less money to AWS, yeah, maybe, but for sure 200% more money to Oracle. overall a very bad deal.
THIS "If you take a workload from Amazon running on Redshift and move it over to Oracle, your Amazon bill will drop by 80%. It will cost you five times more to run Redshift than to run the Oracle Autonomous.“ IS b---s---.
Oracle will get you on their new scheme that is the number of cores or processors you need to run your autonomous DB. The knife is coming deaf Clients. Beware!
The “gotchas” are planned out and the big clients (GE, BOA, AT&T, etc...) cloud washing deals have the gotcha built in. SaaS is free from oracle BUT to run it you need oracle HW ... oracle cloud is non existent.
Oracle lead? Yeah, oracle is going to lead the tech stock crash when LE, SC and MH are led away in handcuffs for cloud fraud.
Except that AWS actually has DCs where they can run huge volumes of work and oracle does not. So even if your costing is correct, it’s not at scale, it’s in a little play box sonewhere, and thus completely irrelevant.
Check mate!
autonomous database is here and it is crushing competition.
"If you take a workload from Amazon running on Redshift and move it over to Oracle, your Amazon bill will drop by 80%. It will cost you five times more to run Redshift than to run the Oracle Autonomous. And this is not total cost of ownership, this is not labor, this is not - this is your Amazon bill, what you pay Amazon to do a piece of work, you can run on the Oracle cloud and pay $.20 on the dollar by moving from Amazon to Oracle."
check and mate
Oracle is offering CLOUD v2.0.
LOL, you are kidding, right?
"Amazon is struggling with ancient cloud solutions" ???? That dude up there is dreaming or lives in some sort of "Oracle Wonderland" .. lol
While Amazon, Microsoft and Google are still struggling with ancient cloud solutions, Oracle is offering CLOUD v2.0.
What cloud at Oracle? Oracle has propitiatory data centers that runs Oracle applications.
Oracle actually rents its own data center. They don't actually own it. The philosophy is sell the solution, then when the customer needs it, build it out. The customer then gets it 1 or 2 months after they need it. This way Oracle can pocket all that sweet cash.