Does L3 realize the emotional toll their policies have on families? As the spouse of smn who works for L3, it's been an emotional 10 yrs. Praying and hoping that no other person has to go through this. The hundreds of people you so casually lay off every year have a husband, wife and children to take care of.
Shame on you and your reckless policies that result in so many people losing their income and self worth.
Guaranteed layoff of all production? What are you talking about. There will Probably be another round in August but not all production.
Okay Anonymous how old are you shouldn't you have a job already. If your mom is getting ready to retire. You should get ready to help her out and stop asking for a handout
The new layoffs are always a huge emotional stress on my family. My mom works here and everytime there’s a rumor of layoffs her self confidence is always lowered. Now there’s the guaranteed layoff of all production.
Now it’s a stressful waiting game of when will she lose her job? Thank you for giving our family 7+ years of stable income and the best job my mom has had. A month ago she was hoping to retire with this job- but that’s too bad. Now she has to look for any other job she can get until retirement to support us
To the self righteous "brilliant" L3 employee..
No I am not bitter because I still have my job. I am a hard working individual who gets along with everyone, especially management. Me stating my opinion on what I think the company is doing wrong, is just that..my opinion.
Seeing many good friends and coworkers get laid off over a number of years, would make anyone unhappy and scared for the future. If you're not scared about whether you're going to be next, tells me that you're either oblivious or brown-nosing hard. I've seen dead weight get laid off and I've seen a lot more hard working individuals. The reality is that L3 is a company that sees Lay offs as one of the first solutions to fixing a problem and that is a horrible approach.
Meanwhile, I am hoping to be out by the end of the year. Good luck to everyone. Don't lose hope. There are plenty of companies in Utah that would love to have you. Comparable pay, better benefits and no worry of lay offs in the near future.
When top management holds a layoff, it makes them feel they are taking a "bold" step. In CSW's case it is the result of a need to chase the numbers allocated from Corporate, often arbitrarily assigned. L3's market (top line funding for military) has increased. In the old days, the VP Finance and CSW President could have genuine dialog all the way to CEO Frank Lanza, and push back when necessary for better long term decisions. Today, there seems to be more corporate layers and less of a relationship.
There is also a case to be made that CSW top management failed to do the long, tough work of new product development, customer engagement, and process improvement to build business and reduce cost of products. To reverse a famous quote: "No Buck Rogers...No Bucks." No new wave of value added products for the military end users means loss of pipeline orders. This is compounded by L3's decision to avoid any aspect of commercial markets. All the while, the integrators (NG, LM, Boeing) have chipped away at content, and actively seek new sources of supply. With a culture of "fear", few will take risks, or even present innovative alternatives needed to move to next generation of products.
I've been through a few rounds of layoffs (only once did it affect me personally) and yes, some of those affected, well, it was no surprise. But there's always 30-40% of those who got canned that leave you scratching your head.
Smug belief that those laid off had it coming is an invitation to the Fates. You’d better wipe that hubris off your face.
Who wouldn't be bitter if they got laid off? I agree that management does not take this sort of thing lightly but if it comes down to keeping their job vs letting some people go, what do you think is going to happen? The only positive thing I can say is that in most cases, people who get laid off seem to end up in a better place in a year or two. Not all cases of courses but in most cases.
You sound very bitter. You're correct that sometimes companies don't have to make cuts for financial reasons. Sometimes they make cuts to get rid of dead weight and people who have bad attitudes. It sounds like you fall into that category. Your former boss should be commended for making a good decision to let you go. Managers aren't obligated to forgo bonuses to string along dead weight like you.
Look, I have worked for big companies in the past and currently work for a company that has 4000+ employees. The only time when I witnessed completely justified layoffs was during 2008-2010. Have any of you any idea how many rounds of layoffs L3 has done since then??? You can blame it on profit, market, etc. but I blame it on poor leadership from the top.
I know many people who have worked for L3 in the past and know a few who currently still do. The personal accounts of many of them are eerily similar. There's even this joke when you find out if someone has worked at L3 in the past and you automatically ask "what round of layoff they were a part of." See, that's what they're mostly known for "LAYOFFS."
If the market is the main one responsible for the layoffs, how come my company (mainly financially government dependent) and many..many others haven't had a single market based layoff since 2010?
Why expand when you can't financially afford it? Why give out such huge bonuses to management when you can use that money to keep the people that will truly help you stay ahead in the future? Why hire so many employees all at once, train them, and then 6 months later lay off the higher paid workers? Doesn't management see that this is a major disaster waiting to happen? Fines, lawsuits, you name it.
Although my spouse likes working with many of his coworkers and managers, the thought of him/her coming home one THURSDAY (ahhh those famous Thursdays) will always taunt us. What if we're next?
Managers caring and feeling sorry for the people they regularly lay off doesn't mean a damn thing to someone who has spent the last 10-20 years serving the company.
Fix your policies. Don't act like you see more than just numbers because it's clear that you don't and that's fine, it's only normal in the business world but the least you can do is hire someone that will fix those numbers and fix your broken company.
Very well could be the wrong hiring in the current market. They hired heavy operations and manufacturing folks early on to get them over the hump. That push is over, now they need engineers. It's a cycle. Having been layed off several times in my career, I get it. I also get business, and to keep the company afloat, hard decisions need to be made.
Yeah yeah yeah double talk bull sh--
It’s unfortunate for those who were displaced from work as well as the leaders who had to endure the difficult process of letting good people go. Unfortunately companies must balance costly resources with demand to stay healthy. Nobody wants this to happen and It’s unfair to place blame on anyone. L3 has great employees and great managers who are doing their best to ensure the company’s continued success. Best of luck to those of you who were let go. You were our friends and colleagues and you’ll be missed. Don’t take it personally because you’re all good people. Try to understand that market dynamics, not personal agendas, drive these decisions. Balancing resources and demand isn’t a sign of irresponsible management, it’s exactly the opposite. It’s an unfortunate part of economics.
L3 is responsible for the layoffs that are occurring and will continue in the future. Due to incompetence supervisors chronic mismanagement and the Good Ole Boy system by hiring their friends from the Navy and the Air Force. And persons that used to go to school with happy layoffs
Layoffs are tough for everyone no doubt, but it's something that every company faces. It's not the policies of L3 that lead to layoffs, it's the market. I don't think any one at L3 takes these layoffs casually. Please explain more on why you feel this is driven by "reckless policies"