Thread regarding Cisco Systems Inc. layoffs

A sorry saga

Back in the day we were all getting geared up fro another IPO/ The SEC filings had been made, there was a great valuation and the future looked bright. Selling our share options was the golden ticket to happiness. we all eagerly awaited the day it happened. BUT we then caught a snake oil salesmans eye.. He is NOT Jesus but he has the same initials. Well he got to thinking that if he bought NDS he could then sell IP routing and switching fabric to the same broadcasters - after all they use IP right? Video WAS the new voice and Cisco saw the bits crashing through their fabric and generating fat stacks of cheddar - Right. My guess is that NDS' version of the acronym IP and JC's version meant two different things. NDS predominantly delivered content over satellite... So the Jesus character wooed our leadership and the leadership had no choice but to maximise shareholder value so they engaged. Jesus took them to CA and entertained them on his boat, happy meals and sunny deals all round. JC was so convinced that he needed these leaders, the 12 disciples, that he wrote into the purchase agreement that they had to sign on for a certain period. They did. I would. In return they would get a nice fat payout at some near future date. The deal was done - the i's dotted and the t's crossed. Staff were asked to come to central locations to get the news of who would buy us. We salivated - Apple, Amazon, Yahoo, Microsoft. No one ever suspected Cisco and boy were we disappointed; deflated in fact. BUT we had to make the best of it - we were wooed by Cisco, fed the same BS that the 12 were fed and we swallowed it hook line and sinker. Cisco would learn from us - our model of customer engagement, go to market strategy was just what they were needing. THEY could LEARN from US - boy were we flattered. We thought we would be left alone as a standalone BU and that they would look to us and learn.

Almost as soon as the ink was dry on the deal it started to go wrong. They split the sales and engineering delivery organizations who used to work hand in hand to deliver. Fatal. They grafted in exec. after exec. from Cisco none of whom had a clue about our business. leader 1 was pushed out pretty quick, leader 2 left for "personal reasons', leader 3 - well best left unsaid, leader 5 left "personal reasons" again and now leader 6 - a Seachange Capo with about as much clue how to run the NDS crew as a vegan knows how to run a butcher shop.

Oh, along the way all of the options we had were zeroed out - we would get Cisco options instead.. fat chance. We got a few crappy RSU's and an ESPP. Some of us got it I mean.

I forgot to mention leader 4. So since leader 3 left and leader 4 took over we have been systematically run into the ground in the name of maintaining the bottom line. Leader 4 got promoted on the back of it along with one of their senior capos. Now there is nothing left to cut. The products are stuff that no customer wants.

Now the clueless leader 6 with his "fat pipe" are in charge the xNDS business is up for sale again - they will be lucky to recoup even 10% of the $5 billion they paid - yes FIVE BILLION DOLLARS. A business school example in the very near future. How to invest 12 billion dollars (they paid 7 billion for SA and 5 billion for NDS) and reduce it to less than 500 million in only 7 years.

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Post ID: @OP+STEWSCM

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Use your common sense if you are an individual contributor at Cisco and plan on staying for the long term; which for most of the non-Exec level means until you are LR'd.

I was LR'd after 16+ years, and while never issued a bounty of RSUs, did have a good run of luck with the old pre-RSU options (the ones no longer available), but moreover, by taking full advantage of the ESPP.

Overall:

-Max out your ESPP.

-Keep track of how much you are contributing; out of direct paycheck.

-Sell only the ESPP amount necessary to recover original direct paycheck cost; when those ESPP shares are qualified. Do not sell disqualified shares.

-Pretend the rest (the extra shares puchased at discount), or your own shares you purchased that represent a cash profit over your direct paycheck cost; doesn't exist. Don't raid the piggybank for a BMW or Tesla.

-Only recover the direct paycheck original cost, if there is an absolute purchase necessity.

This is how the average non-Exec Cisco person can have a good fallback; I hope those planning on staying as long as they can think on above and do the same.

I started at mid $80s base salary in 2000 and was base salary $110s (pre-bonus) at LR at 16+ years, and through above consistent scenario have a $340k ESPP buffer; which now am finally dollar-cost averaging those old 2009 or so $9 ESPP shares.

It's all about common sense, a big of luck, and paying yourself first...and bypassing the Tesla or the BMW.

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Post ID: @2qvp+STEWSCM

Oh FFS! Enough with these "we're a victim of Cisco" posts.

Looks like this was the only thing you people were good at.

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Post ID: @1kkl+STEWSCM

Certainly I agree JC did not write the crappy code. But, cisco should thoroughly investigate the company and its products (especially scale) before buying it.

Pathetic S/W stack is ONE of the key reasons for its failures. It's sheer foolishness on Cisco leadership that they get spending money on this crappy software to compete with the likes of X1, Netflix, etc..

If you don't believe me, the key architects have still have no clue how to scale any of the components .. I lived with this nightmare . but not anymore ..

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Post ID: @1www+STEWSCM

CTAP, you meant CRAP right?

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Post ID: @1zbw+STEWSCM

John Chambers hired his incompetent friends to lead CTAP and PPM. Do you honestly think engineers have any input?

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Post ID: @prx+STEWSCM

Stop f'ing crying like a baby and make your garbage software work, as far as I can remember John Chambers didn't write CTAP or PPM or any of that rubbish.

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Post ID: @fri+STEWSCM

So sad, too bad. Good riddance to the nightmare which was wideo.

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