How many years does wireline and the union have left at Verizon?
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Honestly longer than most can imagine certainly longer than it would matter for most.
Ericsson manufacturers electronics. They are contracted to manufacture transmitters and receivers for the 5G architecture. I know that you have no clue where wireless data goes when it hits the tower but I do. It will be the same for the 5G Network. The biggest difference is that there will be much more fiber and many, many more antennaes. Verizon just ordered $10 billion worth of fiber from Corning. Union members with place and splice that fiber. Minimum 20 years worth of work. Open your eyes, then open your mind.
We are here to stay.
You on the other hand...
I'm not sure how long it will last but I'm going to collect my minimum $70k a year before bonuses and stack up that 401k while I can while taking classes that Verizon also pays for. If it all goes away next year or 4 years from now then so be it but I'm not worried about it.
Wireline into at least till every member is pensionable and likely as long as they live on this earth. As far as the union it will be around for as long as the members maintain solidarity. It is solely up to the membership, no one else. If the work force of tomorrow doesn't stick together it is their own fault but nonetheless their choice. Like all aspects of life you reap what you sow.
100 years. Maybe 200?
Sorry, but Ericsson will build 5g.
Gotta throw my 2 cents in as well. I have also been told in the year 2000 that within ten years, we would never see land lines by the year 2010. They would be obsolete. As other posters have said on here, its in many ways like reading Nostradamus. You can accept it if it does come, it just never seems to come. In the meantime i now have 27 years svc and im 52. So if it ends tomorrow i still have a pension. But truth is wireline has at least 7 more years (2025) before extinction and most landline employees would already be set by then.
You know that the 5g backbone is being built in wireline COs right now right?
I’m guessing you have no clue that wireless traffic ride the wireline backbone either. All that nonsense about “getting rid of wireline” was the company’s way of hiding all the expense of fiber and equipment on the wireline side and making wireless look much more profitable that it really is or was. Investors wised up after a few years of being lied to. Wireless is getting their asses whipped now because of all those years of corporate lies. Union hands will build the 5g. My guess is another 50 years.
5g will give wireline a slow death. Once it's fully rolled out we'll have all home services coast to coast. Anyone with Fios will eventually be migrated to 5g. Wireline will be limited to a backup option mostly for business.
I worked for this company in 1978, and I was told that technician jobs were going away, due to the introduction of the modular jack.
Good paying fiber optic splicing/line jobs are being offered all over the place right now.
I have heard the same as well and each contract I have made more than the last. Go figure.
I've worked here a long time. Every contract had everyone saying "This will be the last contract we get,if we even get one at all" and "if we go out we will never be going back", etc.
Been going on since I work here.
Truth is, nobody knows what will happen until the time comes. I've been hearing doomsday rumors for my whole career.
I was hired in 1990 and was told I would be laid off by 1992,however the contract was settled early. I was then told I would be laid off in 1995 but the contract was settled on time. It was also the first time I made 6 figures. They said 1998 was going to be bad and we would be gone. We struck oddly enough to get card check for wireless, (Most of those losers would now be eligible for retirement now) for I believe 3 days. I remember I had a side job lined up and I had to find the time to finish it since the strike was so short (the side job was a 2 week basement remodel luckily the customer was understanding and was flexible with the completion date) My demise I was told would surely come in 2000. We where now merged with a lowlife southern company GTE and now called Verizon. We struck for 18 days came back to work and made more overtime than we even really wanted, certainly well ahead money wise than without a strike and at a higher pay scale.
I was told this new VZ was a different animal no RBOC and 2003 was going to be brutal. Oddly enough the company wisely saw no reason to screw with a good thing and signed a 5 year deal so they could jumpstart Fios. An incredible amount of work was completed during these 5 years. The company and members did very well, however 2008 would surely be the end of us. All of the work being done would make us unneeded by then, at least that is what I was told. There was not even a strike. This would certainly mean 2011 would be a bloodbath. We struck for 15 days a walk in the park. We had been working so much in anticipation of the strike that it was a nice respite.
The most recent contract was to be the end of us. Admittedly the strike was long 7 weeks just shy of being eligible for unemployment in NY. (had we gotten there it would have gone on much longer, the company wanted none of that) We didn't fair to poorly I still made just shy of 130K that year due to all the overtime from the ineptly completed work done by scabs. I actually made more the strike year than the following year by about 10K although this might be attributed to weather conditions.
So to answer the OP I don't "honestly" know when the union will be gone from all I've been told it should already be gone. Overall I don't think it really matters anymore to those of us who put up the good fight. it is up to the workforce of tomorrow to make the workplace better. They can unite and get their fair share or moan about conditions act as if the union is sinister and fight amongst themselves until they quit. The company loves the latter. I make more than I ever did, my buyout numbers are as high as they have ever been the K plan is at low 7 figures and I can leave on my own terms. I choose to wait for a buyout to put some icing on the cake. If it doesn't come so be it. I will then leave when I feel that I am old enough, maybe at 54 or 55.
I suspect the OP had a hidden agenda in that silly post, that of provocateur.
Yet the rank and file didn't fall for it.
Nice try troll
My mother retired in about 1986 out of fear.
That should tell you something.
I was hired in April 1997 and was told I wouldn't see that October. I've been told basically the same every year since. I can't hurry-wish my life away reaching out to retirement so I'll take it one day at a time and leave it up to the Big Guy.
not more than a year because verizon will no longer be verizon. They dug the company into the ground and the only way to fix it is to sell it off piece by piece.
At least 10yrs
For wireline a long time. Frontier doesn't want it, and CenturyLink can't afford it. For the union....I would give them two more contracts
Also when I say wireline I mean the telephone and isp business. Not referring to the IP backbone.