Thread regarding Oracle Corp. layoffs

Biggest Layoff at Oracle in a decade May 31 2018! Beware the double f---ed!

The 10Q tesll the real story, the biggest layoff in a decade at Oracle is coming this summer May 31 2018. @SjU3ajk nailed it.

The 10Q paints a true an accurate picture of the layoffs at Oracle reported to the federal government, specifically to the UNITED STATES SECURITIES AND EXCHANGE COMMISSION.

http://d18rn0p25nwr6d.cloudfront.net/CIK-0001341439/d68e7357-e1ab-40fe-88ba-56d6b1f79f76.pdf

On Page 16 in plain "English"... The "Cash Payments" column has to match the "Total Expected Program Costs" column. Accounting is pretty simple, in the end the debits and credits have to equal.

Look at the cash totals on Total restructuring plans (in millions) its $(22) adjustments plus $(452) or $(474) total cash pay out. Total Plan is 1114 Million. The total remaining is 1,114 - 474 = 640.

We have 640M in severance packages to be delivered by end of Q4 FY18. That date is May 31 2018. In simple terms 640M / 1114M = 57%. More than half the layoffs for the FY17 restructuring plan have yet to come. Everything combined that happened this fiscal year since May 31 2017 is less than half of what we will see in the next two months.

Combine this with the inevitable stock market correction. Tech stocks have tanked this quarter with Oracle leading the pack as far as s--- wind tech stocks (because its cloud is fake)

Ironically the bone heads running Oracle with their cloud washing strategies have tipped the iceberg of over prices stocks...

https://www.advisorperspectives.com/dshort/updates/2017/09/06/market-cap-to-gdp-an-updated-look-at-the-buffett-valuation-indicator

Warren Buffet created a fantastic over view of the entire stock market with a macro-economic indicator for the price to earnings ratio for an entire nation. He looks at the market cap for the entire stock market in a nation compared to the gross domestic product. Its called the "Warren Buffet Ratio."

If you look at the Wilshire 5000 Full Cap Price Index divided by GDP we are at a higher level than we were in the tech stock bubble of the year 2000. The ratio is at 136.5% in 2000 and 137% in 2018. Basically the entire stock market was over valued by 36.5% in 2000 and its over valued by 37% today. The market will correct.

Basically this indicator (look at the link above) tells us to expect a recession worse than we saw in 2001. The market over corrected by 24% dow to 76% of the true value of stocks around 2003. Warren buffet sold high and bought low while the rest of us went with the pack and bought high and sold low losing our shirts,

I personally held on like grim death to my WorldCom stock and rode that baby all the way to zero. It was a pack of lies.

https://www.marketwatch.com/story/worldcom-future-in-doubt-amid-38-billion-scandal

So what I am trying to say is we are seeing a repeat of the year 2000 nonsense. Oracle is leading the pack like a modern day Enron or WorldCom inflating cloud numbers to make a quick buck. Everyone at Oracle know the cloud is all hype. You work there. Who do you know that closed a real cloud deal worth millions? Who do you know that is not using "cloud at customer" that is a multi-million dollar enterprise deal?

Be honest with yourself because its your butt on the line. Oracle is about to drop the biggest layoff axe in its history May 31 2018. Thats you are f---ed number 1, the double f---ed comes when the market corrects in the next few months.

Here is the deal if you are over 40 or worse over 50, and you are making good money at Oracle you are about to be laid off in the worst recession since 2001. You better find a new job and fast. Waiting for the severance package is great, but get something lined up soon. At this age with crappy legacy and fake cloud skills your last pay check in your life (aside from being a greeter at Walmart) may be coming up in a couple of months.

Honestly this is probably the first time in history you can actually see it coming. I'd say you could take a vacation from Oracle and find a new job. Double dipping is totally excusable in this sorry situation.

Good luck to everyone at Oracle! You are about to be double f---ed!

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Believe me, being laid-off from Oracle is the best thing ever happened to me. Now, I am in a much nicer, paying much better and humane company.

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Post ID: @4hnqf+Sl8WLbK

The layoffs DID happen. My friend was abruptly laid off, health insurance terminated the same day at 11:59 pm. INSANE. No answers or reasons why.

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Post ID: @3Nnyf+Sl8WLbK

I hope they make me manager so i can fire you dirt bags.

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Post ID: @2tfok+Sl8WLbK

: @Sl8WLbK-2pgwl yeah - they are taught empathy HR should be IHR (I for inhuman)

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Post ID: @2qscf+Sl8WLbK

I got laid off after 18 years of service right after my two weeks vacation beginning in july 2018. My boss did it over the phone as soon as I logged into my laptop. Nice.

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Post ID: @2pgwl+Sl8WLbK

I would rather be dead than work in Hell (Oracle) ruled over by Satan (Ellison). I know because I did work there for 2 years after Sun Micro was absorbed by the Death Star.

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Post ID: @28lbv+Sl8WLbK

I hope this is not gonna happen with Oracle. This is one Excellent Stock compared to TWX. This Company is is such a disaster which merged with T.

Remember when TWX merged with AOL? Look how many people lost their A-- on AOL due to TWX!

"Show Me the Money!"

TWX better give T all the rights to use TWX for a better than before jump in a positive direction!

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Post ID: @1yuth+Sl8WLbK

New hired employees will not be knowing the exiting employee capabilities. and they don't have time to understand also. They just want to refresh. One day they will be on the same boat .

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Post ID: @1byzq+Sl8WLbK

Should be 26 weeks pay.

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Post ID: @19gax+Sl8WLbK

@Sl8WLbK-18ooq — Sorry to hear it. With 23 yrs. of service, the severance should be pretty good. Wishing you well whatever you decide to do next.

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Post ID: @18eem+Sl8WLbK

just laid off -23 years of service

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Post ID: @18ooq+Sl8WLbK

"The 10Q tesll the real story, the biggest layoff in a decade at Oracle is coming this summer May 31 2018."

Where's the BIGGEST LAYOFF in a decade???

Where's the 10Q money?

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Post ID: @17fli+Sl8WLbK

have seen lot of farewell emails circulating... I would estimate more or less 200 people left today, all presales

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Post ID: @16uca+Sl8WLbK

Got laid off today after almost 18 years of service. There seems to be absolutely no justification provided for why :(

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Post ID: @16icj+Sl8WLbK

I got hit 5/16. In fact my entire org was dissolved. They are pouring all of their budget into the cloud and anything not cloud related is going away.

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Post ID: @10wik+Sl8WLbK

neither of the two. indians have started studying social engineering, this is a well know tecnique to discredit something.

these posts are just the new way of the old "fake news". just don't read them and pass over.

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Post ID: @Ypud+Sl8WLbK

so is your "friend" in NY or India?

make up your mind.

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Post ID: @Yooa+Sl8WLbK

big layoff coming at end of q4!

lot of guys already looking

or leaving!

Just spoke to a friend of mine, he happens to be a senior manager at Oracle NY and her too is a victim of this layoff. This is not a fake news guys. Looks like the whole thing is a bit different.

bad bad!

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Post ID: @Xwrd+Sl8WLbK

big layoff coming at end of q4

lot of guys already looking

or leaving!

Just spoke to a friend of mine, he happens to be a senior manager at Oracle NY and her too is a victim of this layoff. This is not a fake news guys. Looks like the whole thing is a bit different.

bad bad!

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Post ID: @Xnfg+Sl8WLbK

Just spoke to a friend of mine, he happens to be a senior manager at Oracle India, based in Hyderabad and her too is a victim of this layoff. This is not a fake news guys. Looks like the whole thing is a bit different. IBM does the same regularly. Looks like this the new reality.

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Post ID: @Walh+Sl8WLbK

Lots of good folks lost their jobs on 5/15/2018. Many have been with the

company for a very long time (10-25 years). Its not a rumor its a fact.

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Post ID: @Tovy+Sl8WLbK

What is an AVP?

OBVIOUSLY, AVP = Asian vs. Predator

How do you know now this? Two of the best science fiction movie franchises ever! SMH...

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Post ID: @Tlyx+Sl8WLbK

AVP is Area Vice President

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Post ID: @Svak+Sl8WLbK

What is an AVP?

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Post ID: @Syav+Sl8WLbK

There was let go on 5/15 from the back office SMB team in Minneapolis. Rumor has it that one of the AVP's is on the chopping block 5/31. I would not be surprised if everyone that falls underneath that person will also be gone.

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Post ID: @Sekb+Sl8WLbK

many people in the EMEA SSO presales org under RvG have been rifed in the last few days, mainly ex-Sun server and storage presales specialists or bdm.

depending on the specific country regulations, last day will be may 31st (Russia, EE, some MEA countries) or sept 30th (all others). in some countries (Germany, France), given the strict rules to fire people, sept 30th is only tentative. 26 people affected out of 48.

next in turn will be EMEA sales in SSO (end of may/june)

good luck everyone

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Post ID: @Ryjf+Sl8WLbK

On prem dev lost a lot of good people yesterday. Looks like cuts all over TK org. No clue how we’ll continue to function without these people. I guess things will just get worse.

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Post ID: @Rusz+Sl8WLbK

Sounds like they are getting started a little early. Maybe there's a lot to get through.

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Post ID: @Redg+Sl8WLbK

It’s happening already, few members in my team were terminated today 🤬

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Post ID: @Rydn+Sl8WLbK

Well a boat load of layoffs happneded today on the Operations side.

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Post ID: @Qzjz+Sl8WLbK

I don’t know what “new leaders” the other poster is talking about. But in CX it’s been chaos. The Marketing Cloud have had four (4) different GM’s in two (2) years. Service cloud is circling the drain with client losses and churn. Sales Cloud, the oracle answer to Salesforce.com, continues to try to convert Siebel in Premise clients to oracle sales cloud. It’s all defense against Salesforce takeovers. HCM is getting kicked up and down the street by workday as the legacy clients opt for modern cloud SaaS over TK’s retrofit of old on premise Peoplesoft.

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Post ID: @Kocc+Sl8WLbK

Yeah, the “leadership” is in the mushroom forest being fed sh-- about oracles new (not) cloud domination strategy by the top brass.

The entire ship is taking on water faster than they can bail. Zero growth. Just keeping flat .... Oracle Cloud Operations are an India led sh-- show.

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Post ID: @Kpvi+Sl8WLbK

Even Oracle Cloud doesnt want Oracle Cloud.

LOL

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Post ID: @Kupd+Sl8WLbK

Who are the "new fresh leaders (just hired)"? I left the company a while ago.

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Post ID: @Knvr+Sl8WLbK

For the first time in ages, Oracle Mgmt has gone radio silent across the organization. The new fresh leaders (just hired) are finding out that MH really is a passive aggressive dictator backed by LE, the insecure narcissist and SC, Larrys work wife.

The reorg for the new year is “still being determined” depending on who you talk to. It’s all very hush hush. The company line is: “we’re growibg and hiring” . Meanwhile, customer service (customer success) is in panic mode abd product is still stacking

b-b’s trying to look busy. Sales (tech & apps) are trying to get deals closed using an ever-increasing quagmire of inconpetent deal architects and legal eagles in co tracts dept. one click ordering and provisioning continues to be illusive.

Summer vacation can’t get here soon enough.

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Post ID: @Kkka+Sl8WLbK

@Sl8WLbK-cms I know you didn't mean "oracle will not jay you off until year end". I think maybe you intended to write "jack" or "lay" instead of "jay" . Ha, freakin' ha!

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Post ID: @Jelm+Sl8WLbK

Oracle Cloud is dog p--p compared to any of the competitors. Fake Cloud skills for sure. Nobody wants Oracle Cloud and certainly nobody wants those involved with Oracle Cloud. Even Oracle Cloud doesnt want Oracle Cloud.

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Post ID: @wmtg+Sl8WLbK

Here is the deal if you are over 40 or worse over 50, and you are making good money at Oracle you are about to be laid off in the worst recession since 2001. You better find a new job and fast. Waiting for the severance package is great, but get something lined up soon. At this age with crappy legacy and fake cloud skills your last pay check in your life (aside from being a greeter at Walmart) may be coming up in a couple of months. If you are one of the left-overs at Oracle getting promoted to some sort of manager, hold on to your butt.

Honestly this is probably the first time in history you can actually see it coming. I'd say you could take a vacation from Oracle and find a new job. Double dipping is totally excusable in this sorry situation.

Good luck to everyone at Oracle! You are about to be double f---ed!

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Post ID: @wfmp+Sl8WLbK

Oracle is going to lay off so many people on 5/31 that even the Turd is sick to his stomach and losing weight over it, that takes a lot.

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Post ID: @wvfu+Sl8WLbK

These are just a bunch of losers. Move on. There's no such thing as job security.

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Post ID: @wyrb+Sl8WLbK

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