Thread regarding State Farm Insurance layoffs

ET - One Systems Dept?

How many times is SF going to reorg into one Systems Department? This is the 3rd time from my recollection. Auto, Fire, and others combined decades ago. S&S combined in 90's to form Systems and Corp South was constructed. Now we have ET. Maybe centralized command and control isn't the best organizational model when the goal is speed and efficiency. Reminds me of the Federal government and we all know how efficient that organization is. Perhaps the challenge isn't organizational but the inability to reengineer major systems? Is Echo to still running code written in the 80s? Is Auto still using language IBM introduced in 70's? First time caller long time listener.

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With IT transformation, there will be a pause in the work for building ECRM...aka-Salesforce starting in June. Large number of people let being let go, moving, changing roles...everyone knows there will be a huge disruption. Can't imagine how leadership plans on "selling" it at convention. For anyone left to do the work...hold on to your hats, cause it's going to be a hell of a ride!

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Post ID: @2nvc+T48B32B

As an agent if we don’t get Saleforce rolled out soon they are going to call all of you gone.

All of us? Define "all of us." Are you aware that only a very small percentage of Systems employees have anything whatsoever to do with Sales Force? Are you under the impression that State Farm is going to fire thousands of people who are needed to maintain and build other systems just because someone is pissed off about Sales Force?

Are you aware of the fact that technical teams evaluated Sales Force about 10 years ago and recommended that the business not pursue a Sales Force implementation because of obvious difficulties integrating their product?

Are you aware of the fact that the main reason why the Sales Force implementation has taken so long is because of all the myriad factors explained in excruciating detail during this initial evaluation?

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Are you aware of the fact that the business has maintained warring factions that are pro Sales Force vs. anti Sales Force and that this has certainly hot helped adoption?

Are you aware of the fact that Systems could have grown this system in house for a fraction of the cost, if the executives hadn't utterly obliterated Systems with CDE?

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Post ID: @2zjn+T48B32B

The problem is that agency ever wanted Sales Force to begin with. That software is garbage and a complete rip off.

Blame yourself.

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Post ID: @1smp+T48B32B

Sales Force is a God damned joke, son. I should know. I was part of the team that advised State Farm years ago NOT to get into bed with that damned company.

Now look where we are. We could have built our own system ten times over for what we've paid to get our data into a so-called "SaaS" System.

Our leaders are idiots.

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Post ID: @1ttd+T48B32B

As an agent if we don’t get Saleforce rolled out soon they are going to call all of you gone. We have been waiting years, patience is growing thin and this will be a huge topic at Convention.

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Post ID: @1ilx+T48B32B

OMG, please tell me what degree this poster has. Must be liberal arts with no clue about basic mathematics, finance, or business. WOW!!!!

It's probably the same genius who referred to me as Whoopie yesterday, like that was some sort of insult that made sense. I guess this is the inevitable result of drinking Tipsord's Kool Aid -- brain damage.

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Post ID: @1htr+T48B32B

Maybe they will change the name back to DP-that was the last time we were any good in that line of work. Paging Mr. Kehl pls....

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Post ID: @1ssi+T48B32B

OMG, please tell me what degree this poster has. Must be liberal arts with no clue about basic mathematics, finance, or business. WOW!!!!

"Death spiral? The Company is in the strongest financial position in its nearly 100 year history. The trends are improving so much that nearly every state will enjoy lower rates now or later this year which means production is picking up and growth will resume. I know you would like the company to fail-but it is going to do the exact opposite."

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Post ID: @1bwj+T48B32B

/I sure hope they get rid of you sooner than later-you are to dumb to hold a responsible job./

If he were truly too dumb to hold a responsible job, he'd get to retire here. Is that the path you're on?

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Post ID: @1btm+T48B32B

Wait, we have some tool in this thread DEFENDING Tipsord and his drones? Holy Christ.

Come here, Frank. Look at this. We found one!

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Post ID: @1hdh+T48B32B

I sure hope they get rid of you sooner than later-you are to dumb to hold a responsible job.

When I asked you to f--- yourself and describe it in gross detail, I didn't expect you to actually do it. But with this post, you sort of have. Wow. You're a f---ing idiot.

Keep drinking the Kool-Aid, junior.

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Post ID: @1ijm+T48B32B

Agree with last poster...I have lived through CDE, ICP, ISD and now will die by ET. Yes our financial net worth is growing but we continue to have Underwriting losses only to be saved by our investments. We continue to lose market share too.

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Post ID: @1kpz+T48B32B

They had 2 years of underwriting losses, first auto, then fire. BTW the entire industry lost money on Fire in 2016 due to hurricanes and fires-worst CAT results in industry history. That can happen in the insurance business. Prior to that, look at 2011-2015 they were achieving or exceeding profit targets. BTW, they are exceeding profit targets for this year, YTD.

Stronger financial results is leading to rate decreases, Louisiana DOI just announced SF’s today. Record agent appointment, increased advertising all point to future production and growth.

I sure hope they get rid of you sooner than later-you are to dumb to hold a responsible job.

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Post ID: @1aqi+T48B32B

Previous poster:

You didn't live through CDE, did you?

This is the same executive team that dreamed up the last failed claims re-org and the biggest Systems debacle in corporate IT history, a team that is now erasing their mistakes by purging the roles they've ruined.

Any success this company has is most definitely IN SPITE OF this executive team.

And I'm sorry, but the multi-billion dollar losses are not a sign of a strong financial position. State Farm stays afloat on its investments, but a few more years with these clowns driving will eat those investments up and spit them out.

So unless you plan on f---ing yourself and describing the act in gross detail, please refrain from posting henceforth. Thanks in advance.

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Post ID: @1bfb+T48B32B

Death spiral? The Company is in the strongest financial position in its nearly 100 year history. The trends are improving so much that nearly every state will enjoy lower rates now or later this year which means production is picking up and growth will resume. I know you would like the company to fail-but it is going to do the exact opposite.

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Post ID: @1lyr+T48B32B

Exactly right!!!!

"And why are the executives who came up with this hair-brained idea still here while most of the employees they forced into this nonsense are being laid off?"

"Employees will never respect this executive team after all their painful misfires. Their mistakes were obvious in foresight to everyone except them, and it's simply inexcusable.

The company simply cannot be successful until this group of execs is fired. It has to happen. Sooner rather than later, unless the board LIKES a death spiral."

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Post ID: @1ins+T48B32B

Employees will never respect this executive team after all their painful misfires. Their mistakes were obvious in foresight to everyone except them, and it's simply inexcusable.

The company simply cannot be successful until this group of execs is fired. It has to happen. Sooner rather than later, unless the board LIKES a death spiral.

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Post ID: @1nni+T48B32B

CDE, ICP, ISD now ET all in the 5 years I've been there. Knew I was done when they made Business Analysts into IT Analysts. Agree changes needed to be made but this is beyond ridiculous. No approved transition plan for ET yet? Ridiculous. Restructuring Claims to lessen experience and save money? Ridiculous.

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Post ID: @fnt+T48B32B

And why are the executives who came up with this hair-brained idea still here while most of the employees they forced into this nonsense are being laid off?

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Post ID: @cvh+T48B32B

:) and this will be the third time that I've worked in a different area referred to as ET in the last 10+ years.

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Post ID: @vvr+T48B32B

Pretty sure the idea behind ET is to ultimately acknowledge the failures that were ISD and Digital. Having a buffer department of business partners that weren't actually the business was a terrible idea from the get go. Layers upon layers upon layers of inefficiency.

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