Thread regarding Chevron Corp. layoffs

Learn new things or be laid off?

I've been with the company 29 years in the D&C organization, and I was told this week that I needed to learn some new things or basically get the boot. I talked to another colleague in IT, and even he said that apparently we are trying to get people who know how to write code instead of outsourcing those to India. I was surprised to know that our IT people are really just project managers and analysts. Why the change?

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Post ID: @OP+TmqwpoZ

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Hey no sense in whining about it. You need to learn the art of backstabbing if you want to get ahead in this industry.

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Post ID: @shpp+TmqwpoZ

"if it ain’t broke, don’t fix it". Open your eyes: it's broke.

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Post ID: @8xxw+TmqwpoZ

I’m a man with more than 30 years at Chevron. I’ve seen and also know many women who do a great job, more so than half the men in similar roles. Why is that? Simple. Women want the same things as men - Independence, provide for their families, personal growth and ambition, a need to contribute to their benefactor, the company, and so many other important reasons. The fact is the world is charging. Call it equality for everyone who measures up, make the sacrifices, studies well and learns. When it comes to a person willing to work hard, playing fair, helping their colleagues succeed, is there a valid reason why a man is more worthy than a woman or vice versa? In jobs that require more brains and leadership skills than physical strength, I can’t find one reason why not.

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Post ID: @8jna+TmqwpoZ

8bii, Probably because many current employees are useless and an average woman could do the job much better and quicker than you.

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Post ID: @8yzt+TmqwpoZ

Why does CVX need more women leaders? Besides meeting some worthless metric, what is the business reason to force more women into leadership positions?

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Post ID: @8bii+TmqwpoZ

That’s precisely what they’re saying. Adapt to the times or be replaced. I don’t necessarily thing that change for the sake of change is a good thing. I do believe in trying new things and empowering women, but also in the old adage; if t ain’t broke, don’t fix it. Somewhere down the middle is the right thing. Always put the right people in the job and the company will stand the best chance of success. Anything other than that is called social engineering. We know from countless examples how high the failure rate is.

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Post ID: @8ovm+TmqwpoZ

I would imagine you're being asked to grow your skills after 29 years maybe because it's not 1988 anymore. Think about it, but not too long or you'll be replaced by someone willing to adapt with the times.

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Post ID: @8mav+TmqwpoZ

CVX desperately needs more women leaders and Mike is pushing for them so they are happening. Let’s watch and see what happens once they are on seat a year. A few will sink but some will be pretty good. The ladies being selected recently are quite narrowly qualified for their positions. Let’s hope they rise to the occasion.

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Post ID: @7okb+TmqwpoZ

@1wbs, It’s more likely you are a woman who can’t compete with men. Sounds to me like you revel in the new handicapped world of social engineering. This whole thing will end terribly for women in leadership positions and future generations of women will pay the price for a long time. Mark my words.

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Post ID: @1obj+TmqwpoZ

Looks like a few here can’t compete with women. Stop hiding a public facade that’s now exposed as an indiscriminate babbling bullshipper.

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Post ID: @1wbs+TmqwpoZ

@eqe, Chevron is indiscriminately filling quotas and going overboard on political correctness. All these things can be done to satisfy the latest social push of the new world order, and can be accomplished well enough if only Chevron would truly get behind doing it for the company’s wellbeing instead of the idea itself. The way they are getting this latest push to put women in positions of leadership is going to fail miserably. Mark my words.

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Post ID: @1ssd+TmqwpoZ

Chevron should just go ahead and name a woman to be CEO. I think it's absolutely crazy that all these new important leaders named in key positions have all been women lately. At least if we have a female CEO, we can actually go ahead and get the best person for the job in all the other key positions, instead of giving women these roles just because they're women and were above average at their jobs. There are outstanding women who can lead, no question about that, but we are going overboard and backfilling these leadership positions with largely women.

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Post ID: @eqe+TmqwpoZ

Hey @tap, I’m not the OP but a 26 year employee who was laid off in 2016, though I carried my weight and that of others in and out of my department. I contributed more than my share because it is my work ethic to do so. Nonetheless because someone above my paygrade thought I was paid a little too much, decided to give me my walking papers. There were many like me that did a great job and were respected across the various workgroups. Sadly, you pretend to be one of those who think you deserved to stay in place and everyone else who got laid off had it coming. One day, you will realize that flawed point of view, maybe a little too late. Think before commenting.

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Post ID: @dsh+TmqwpoZ

The OP for this thread needs to understand that being a piece of deadwood and talking a good job won’t cut it anymore. He needs to get off his a$$ and actually contribute.

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Post ID: @tap+TmqwpoZ

Diversity is overrated.

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Post ID: @zhi+TmqwpoZ

I’m learning to take a dump sitting backwards on the toilet. Does that count?

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Post ID: @udj+TmqwpoZ

this is a lay off forum. the OP was talking about learning new skills. get off your soapboxes about diversity.

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Post ID: @fwk+TmqwpoZ

@dus, as a male non-white employee, i agree with you. but i also see the tiny effort that chevron takes to promote diversity, checking the minority box by moving minority females ahead of minority males, not based on merit, but based on checking 2 boxes at the same time. they don't talk about minority males.

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Post ID: @sfp+TmqwpoZ

Why would diversity need to be "enforced"?

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Post ID: @wok+TmqwpoZ

As a twenty-five year female non-white employee who has functioned in leadership roles, the glass ceiling is still in place when it comes to promoting minority women. The sheer lack of respect for women in leadership is appalling at the company. Diversity is discussed, but not enforced.

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Post ID: @dus+TmqwpoZ

yah, what a joke that movement is. take a look at the leaders of every single business unit. they're basically all white dudes. i do see the company trying to check some boxes tho. they give the diversity candidates the management roles to fulfill some quota, and make sure that they are also women. what that means is that if your a hispanic, black, middle eastern, or asian man - the diversity and inclusion movement does not include you.

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Post ID: @zhk+TmqwpoZ

OP, i can guess your profile by that statement. you would be fine and don't need to learn new things if you are the poster child for the diversity and inclusion principle

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Post ID: @vtb+TmqwpoZ

I'm too old to learn new things. Good thing this is Chevron, and it takes a long time to lay people off. Look how long project alpha took!

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