It's oh so quiet
Shh shh
It's oh so still
Shh shh
You're all alone
Shh shh
And so peaceful until
You just make a bunch of junk up and get a bunch of demoralized s---ers to buy it.
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Not so quiet today. stock going down big time... bye bye MH, SC and LE.
@ @TywFeW9-5pfr. That is still FRAUD brainiac.
Fact? Who are these big customers buying the cloud products? I don’t see them. Sure, a customer needs to renew a huge ULA for $10 million for certain pieces of waftware, but they get a deal for $5 million of software and $4 million of cloud for a total of $9 million. What do you think the customer buys? Other companies do this too. It’s not unique to Oracle.
@TywFeW9-5wpm are you employees in Oracle Legal or C&E ?
The cover up LOB for the cloud wash and SEC protection
you seem to only be able to rant over and over again, without any real proof or evidence.... no "cloud washing" evidence has been ever demonstrated in a court or even just discussed by an analyst, no case at SEC, nothing.... you just go on and on ranting the same bittered poison, but unfortunately for you with no effect at all.
facts are here, Oracle is gaining billions with the cloud, and the ORCL stock is going up in a clear way. more and more customer are buying OCI and even OCI-C. sorry, that's the reality, you like it or not.
Financial manipulation thru stock buy backs is all the 3 stooges are capable of, no idea how to deploy the cash to build cloud offerings that actually work and customers want to buy.
Stock buybacks are great if you can't find a better use for the money. It also reduces the volume. If there is bad news, then it won't take a lot of shares to send the value of the company down. Reduced liquidity can be a good thing but it can also be a bad thing.
The crew is abandoning ship.! The rats will be the only ones left to devour each other as the ship goes down!
TITANIC II
Me too. I am looking forward to the earnings release on June 19. This will be the sequel to the movie titanic and we all know what happened at the end of that one. Sale are down again in Q4. It was a very bad quarter. Even on the freebie cloud engineered deals there were only a hand full of takers. Its pretty bad when your CEO is giving your cloud SaaS away for free and the clients wont' even take it.
the recent stock move (higher) is most likely the result of Oracle's big increase in buybacks. I am looking forward to the earnings release on June 19. this will be the sequel to the movie titanic and we all know what happened at the end of that one.
official results will be published on 19th, but no need to wait until then. market is already aware of the very good results, ORCL stock is going up substantially since last march.
more and more customers are adopting OCI, we run out of available systems in the past months and ordered many new ones, and now we are running out of space, to the point that we are choosing the next dc location. we are even facing something incredible, i.e. many customers want a SPARC cloud, we were not ready for that and we are delivering an OCI solution based on SPARC that will complement the current OCI-C M300, expect good news in the coming 2 months.
these are facts, not just rattles from bitter and twisted people.
With cloud washing, the Q4 results could be meaningless.
We will see when Q4 results are posted. 12 more days?
I can't figure out if you have drunk the koolaid or you are making koolaid for the rest of us to drink.
an unique portfolio of fully integrated services
Unique I agree with, but that's not positive. "fully integrated" is complete crap.
It's all garbage. There are people in process of leaving that are important. You should get your sh-- together and get out while you have some dignity left.
@TywFeW9-3ntr — Spot on! CLUCK!
Solaris DAX would have been revolutionary ten years ago before the Oracle era when Sun still had some integrity. It is no longer an open secret but a fact you find stated in business news: O has completely squandered any shred of patience customers had with their overbearing license policies, software options and patented “Hands off” lowest cost overpriced support model.
In this new era where customers have a plethora of other excellent choices in the Cloud, onprem or a hybrid, for databases and Virtualization, the chickens are coming home to roost. Big mean chickens
...forgot to say: and yes, no big layoff in sight. There will be some adjustment, but nothing big.
We already got rid of the useless and incredibly expensive HW engineering (2B per year to create what? SPARC is dead, no one wants Solaris, DAX is used by just a bunch of hard-core tecno-feticist, and so on), HW sales is relatively small and in any case can be leveraged to sell Exadata, support is almost gone. Yes, we still have that TK org mammoth, but they can be converted to cloud.
Why you say Oracle has issues and challenges? I honestly don't think so, our cloud is growing fast, and we are number one in Autonomus DB, SaaS and also ERP. We can offer an unique portfolio of fully integrated services. The quarterly results will show an incredible growth, as anticipated by stocks that are increasing in value in a substantial way since many weeks now.
Yes, there are some deadwood, as in any other company that is transitioning to cloud coming from the old on-prem paradigma, but we are much better poistioned than anyone else. I'm truly sorry for on-prem SW or HW organizations, but guys this is how the market is evolving, it's the future, you adapt or die.
"Sorry, don't believe that for a second, try again."
Agreed. While Oracle has issues and challenges, this stuff is pure tinfoil hat material.
Part of Millenial class of training requires students to come on here and post fake news to every post and to start threads like this. You’re doing a great job.
Sorry, don't believe that for a second, try again.
Part of Millenial class of training requires students to come on here and post fake news to every post and to start threads like this. You’re doing a great job.
... pull out any and all selling tactics....
More audits?
The pipeline for Q4 was the worst we have seen in years. Heading into Q1/2 management is advising to pull out any and all selling tactics to build a healthy pipeline. Last year we got blasted for having opportunities tagged as pipe when it really was noise. It’s going to be a rough FY19. My peers are saying deep cuts will happen but be spread out. It’s all headed to HUBs and cheap workforce.
Thanks for the info, please keep posting anything you hear.
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Look at you stirring the pot. How precious? Bless your teeny little heart to pieces .
My VP has been in offsite meetings with his staff several times this quarter...something’s brewing
It’s oh so quiet!
Sounds like the HQ development morque I was working in.
That’s why Oracle needs a massive layoff.
Exactly, they need to get this over with. They are do hung up on keeping things quiet in terms of layoff announcements, that they are just screwing themselves and the company over.
Everyone except LE's ego, which has a life of its own, would be better off just laying off everyone they intend to let go of.
That’s why Oracle needs a massive layoff. Stop hiding behind spreadsheets...it’s been like these for years.
People are meditating in the current winter-like weather in the middle of summer.
it is quiet now because no one is selling anything. It should get very loud when the quarterly results are reported on June 19. going down in a blaze of glory.