Thread regarding Honeywell International Inc. layoffs

What other companies are worth working for? Tech companies only care about making money. I wish that America would care about making America's military great again. If we would just focus our budgets on military advancements, then there would be enough jobs for all of us. Honeywell is getting screwed over by the liberal leftist. They would love to see any company that develops military equipment burned to the ground, that is precisely what is happening. Honeywell is the victim, the leadership is just trying salvage what they can to support the mission. If you want to see jobs in America again, get all the liberals out of office.

Honeywell HBS/Building Technologies will be the next piece of the Honeywell pie sold, mark my words. First the Homes spinoff and next will be Building Technologies....wish it would have been sold last year. The America’s business continues to be literally run into the ground and has been a target from all the blokes who couldn’t run their own damn businesses succefully on the other side of the pond...and as of very poor Leadership starting at the top of the Buildings business by Rajert and crew ...and the short sighted strategy for the last 3 years to starve the business and send everything possible to India, while eliminating jobs in the America’s. The writing is on the wall now with the elimination of the America’s regional leadership, and the loss of all the talent that left with.....and now with Gary Michel ex CEO bailing after basically 1 year. Many top talent across Leadership, Sales and Operations have resigned over the last 6-12 mo as a result of the ongoing strategy of “eating your own” and “burning the furniture” to make the numbers by the blokes running the place and right into the ground.

5-btr, OP and others, the best thing that ever happened to me was to get layed off from Honeywell, took a year off, and found way better, more fulfilling work elsewhere. It helps that the defense/electronics sector is hot right now, with no budget-end-in-sight for those with actual talent. In fact, even the talent-less can scam it for awhile, from my observation. Its about full employment in the tech sector right now.

For those still at Honeywell, unless you are part of the problem (and you'd be surprised how small the world is, ah-hem) the rest of you, unless you have a reason to stay, get out while the gettin' is good.

5-btr - The last "major" software development project I worked on in Aero was totally micro-miss-managed from Phoenix and even with a lack-of-staffing it almost got done right until they shipped it to Bangalore to get it "finished and delivered by 'K'" (not) and turned into a big doggie doo in the end.

So the lesson learned is, with the goal of Honeywell becoming a software company, with management like that, better bring your duty bags to scoop it up, no matter what business group you work in, there.

I too was let go over the work from home policy. At least you got severance. I got nothing. They even rooked me out of unemployment. Judge said since I violated the work from home policy, I was not eligible for unemployment. Topping it all off Honeywell said I owed them $1500 dollars for taking to much vacation time before I was let go last March last year. 19 years of service did not mean a thing. There Just making room for more H1B visa folks.

Before Atlanta, it was Austin.

About a two years ago: all employees in there quit, and of course told about it to all the others in the very area. Not a single new skilled app developer ever came to work there for Hon, after that, except for a few unskilled Indian folks. Absolute mess. All due to mgmt behavior, due to a set of specific people through the ranks (can't list names here, but sure most of us do know exactly who) and also due to many Hon processes. The few Fellows that tried to make a name on the project, back in the time, pushed to make things ever worse. They very well know. What a show it was. No need to vent it here.

In fact, Austin was the same as the previous person describes what the Atlanta is at the moment.

Note that it used to be Austin who did work on the very "Lyric" App - the very App that have indeed killed Homes and brought all this mess !

Now the app is done by India, and well could not s*ck more.

See its rating on the app stores.

Funny fact: They've paid for a reset (!) but it always came back to the worst ratings. Repeatedly. For a reason LOL.

Go read the comments there - and then, how funny it gets to read the headline Hon does push to the customers (yourhome.honeywell.com) - "Take comfort in knowing the company that helped put a man on the moon also built this thermostat".

1] Basically all the connected thermostats (except the honeybadger, won't touch this with a mile long stick) were engineered in Brno CZ EU (talk globalization now), and none of these people ever got to do anything with a Moon Flight (yes, I know it is an eufemism, but yet, the stupidity of the marketing people just hurts my brain)

2] All the thermostats are physically built in MX, that might be the only location worth keeping by the new owner - all the other locations can easily be thrown away as these bring nothing useful to the mix

3] The total wreck - the mobile app - have been agressively pushed forward by the very people who destroyed Homes

4] All the testing was deliberately skipped and test reports ignored and often falsified by mgmt

5] We had many people speaking up about what was wrong, but were deliberately ignored - the whole thing, in a retrospective, closely resembles an active sabotage, yesss

All in all, sry for the long post, but just don't bother with Atlanta. Not worth it.

Hon tries to move itself to a Software-Only field. Empty handed. New uneducated kid on the block. All the smart guys that have their signatures in the SVN through the real code are GONE and do work somewhere else (Hello Google Nest).

Also, note that nowadays there are people through Hon, claiming results of the old teams (Sentience - china, india - stealing code and "simply" renaming it, yet having no idea how it works). Poor customers . . . (what customers ? haha gone).

This whole thing will fail spectaculary.

Hope the new companies will do a deep dive and see that the whole Spin is a charade.

Same for the software guys, Atlanta and such.

Every bubble will burst, one day - and the more later it does, the bigger burst it will be.

Grabbing popcorn....

All in all -

Get out while you can, get a job where they will appreciate your unique skills

(unless you are one of the people who brought the disaster in a first place,

in fact the most of the people who remained in Hon are exactly the people who destroyed it).

Atlanta is there just and only because Hon got a huge tax relief and a huge $ subvention. No other reason. But only if they will stay "active" there for a couple of years. (I bet they will close it right the next day).

5rjh - speaking of Atlanta.....

Another train wreck. Free lunch every day. People showing up late, leaving early and playing ping Pong, xbox and playstation in between.

Name one app or other product that was produced in Atlanta. You cant because there inst any several years in.

And we all know what a hot bed of tech Atlanta is so it make sense to put a software center there. I keep hearing they have great schools nearby was the reason. Never mind MIT or Stanford..lets go with Georgia tech becasue after graduation you KNOW they will want to work for Honeywell and not Google, Apple, Microsoft or a startup that can actually develop software in some unknown place like...silicon valley or NY.

Forget about Seattle or silicon valley lets put our sofware center in Atlanta then force everyone to move to a place no one wants to move to.

lol

Nice job

Want to make a stupid app or something?? That guy hasn’t heard the message that apps are WAY more important than making things fly. Visit the naive young people working in Atlanta and you will get the picture quick.

I found Aero to be more

a---numbing than mind-numbing,

after years if no raises, no MIB,

and poly-PIPs

but I guess the work was admittedly mind-numbing

after so many hours of unpaid over time

re -3afr

so i guess you went back to seconds on the cool-aid today? LOL!

what you say was true when when this was an engineering company, like Sperry, or Honeywell pre allied take over. But now we work for a finance company, and no matter how much enjoyment you may receive from your current job (with the furloughs, RIFs, benefits erosion ..etc), you are still a cost and liability to be cut to make the quarterly numbers.

Enjoy your cool-aid, BTW are they also handing out rose colored glasses?

Life after Honeywell? We will never find a better place people. Unlimited vacation, making things fly...we do IMPORTANT, MEANINGFUL WORK. Come on...you aren't going to find that level of being fulfilled by work for the Amazon's, Google's or Microsoft's of the world. This is the best possible job you WILL ever have. Don't take it for granted. Nothing is better, unless you want to make a stupid app or something.

Congratulations, OP. I am in my early 60's and plan to leave Honeywell later this year. All the people who have left before me say they have never felt better. Stress is gone, health has improved. They can't emphasize enough to plan in advance to leave as you never know when the ax will drop. Two landed jobs before their severance package ran out. Honeywell wants us to leave. They don't care about having qualified, experienced people. They only want to make money so that the top leaders get their big bonuses. Good luck with that! A house made out of cards eventually falls! Keep living life, OP. Anyone who escapes from Honeywell deserves it!

Congrats, OP! So happy for you!

@tkm- great question. My wife ( not partner) and I are in excellent health praise God! No scrips just our annual stuff.

We went with Liberty health plan costing us 300/mo. for both of us. It's a health share plan. Other plans was 800 to 1400/mo. I'm 60 so in 5 years I'll go to Medicare.

Again it's all about planning. I do realize life gets in the way but I hope all can find peace wherever they work as it's not worth living everyday wondering if there's a paycheck at the end of the day.

@mra. Good to hear! And so glad things worked out for you. I also was 59, saved well in my 401k- but always on track for a healthy worry-free retirement at 65- not 6 years early. My partner does not work so we were/are a single income household. The thing that really screwed me from being able to retire at 59 was the health care situation. What are you doing for that? I imagine that is the thorn in many of our sides.

At any rate, I am so happy I can finish out my career with a good company that trusts its employees and treats them well. So far, it’s been an amazing breath of fresh air. And to make more than I did at Honeywell? Even better!

All the best to everyone- do what you can; what works for you- and just don’t give up.

@xsj. Yes I was in Aero. I was not in AZ. Part of a global team so working virtual was standard. If I give my location it will pinpoint me. Sorry to be paranoid, but that’s what Honeywell did to me.

Yes this company is hiring. My best advice would be to super update your linked in accounts; mark yourself open for recruiters to find you; strengthen your resume and highlight anything that makes your skill set special. They will find you. They are scouring linked in for certain skills.

What's the point of asking about the company...they can't or won't hire every one from Honeywell. This doesn't even consider location. You might as say this is google or facebook.

You Americans are so obsessed with your jobs, and you get nothing from them. Don't get it.

OP, maybe you can share following

1. What city you located?

2. Were you in Aero?

3. Is new company hiring now?

Then rest of us can job search for ourselves, and not put you in an uncomfortable position.

I don’t feel safe sharing the company name on this site. Sorry. This is all true, whether you choose to not believe me is your choice. I have zero reason to give anyone at or former Honeywell false information. I just want to say. Don’t give up and don’t downplay your skills. There are good companies out there. May not be based in the US.... no I am not relocating, that was not an option for me. But there are some awesome parent companies globally that have entities here, just saying.

I was put out due to the working from home debacle , I was 59. This was last October following the 6 mos severance. I never even looked for work, I retired with two yes two allied Signal retirement checks and a small amount out of my 401 and life has never been better. I have a similar income as when I worked and doing very well, I'll take SS at age 62 and stop all 401 withdrawal.

You can do it at age 60 if you planned and saved while at the hell hole of Honeyhell .

All the best. There is a great life after that pit of a company.

IF this is a true post, then don't be selfish and share the name of the company that is in such great shape and is hiring.