Thread regarding Dell Inc. layoffs

Millennials are going to be Dell's downfall

Dell can't survive if it gets rid of all the older employees (as it has been working hard on doing) and only employs millennials to fill the vacant positions.

Most of them either don't know how to do their jobs or simply don't care and are just looking for a few years to put on their resume before moving on.

Dell will pay dearly for this down the line...

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Post ID: @OP+U1RmDaO

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Well the PIP ends shortly and I am still being told by my immediate supervisor not to worry but..... but they doubled our goal a month into the PIP to insure I can't make it, there're at least ten things wrong with my comp that a have been completely ignored after repeated request and meetings as they wait out the quarter to fire me.... the sad thing is that it won't be the guy who says don't worry, he will hide and it will be his boss and some HR crone that call me up so that there are no fireworks. Got a lawyer and am ready this time.

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Post ID: @fces+U1RmDaO

Dell is not a career. I am hired for my expertise, then Dell hired and transfer some special club people levels above me so I can make them look good and they can look good at that position. No promotion no recognition no opportunity for me. Then like the person before me, I am expected to grow tired and resign withing 3 years so the club can cycle in their other mate.

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Post ID: @6ezr+U1RmDaO

I too, am in my 60s, watching in dismay as the "seasoned" engineers, SEs, and account teams are replaced by recent college graduates.

For the past few years, I have worked with RCGs for which Dell/EMC is their first real job.

2 observations:

  • There are as many hardworking team players who put in long hours and strive for improvement among the very young as in my cohort.

  • Dell has repeatedly demonstrated that it considers employees as chattel, not the lifeblood of success. For most younger folks, that translates to the work being a job, not a career.

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Post ID: @4dto+U1RmDaO

To the dude who spent 40+ years in the hi-tech industry and believes you need to work a 20 hour work day to make it in tech. That is not the only way to make it. I have been in tech for 25 years myself. I used to pull days similar to what you describe. The issue is that if you don't create a work life balance then what the heck are you working for? To work some more? I know some people have passion for their fields so if that is your thing, good for you. For a majority of people having a life beyond work is essential. I had two kids. I didn't want to miss them growing up so I took some advice. No matter what you do, no one is going to remember it in a few years at best. Unless you are doing life changing work. In IT most of the work you do will not be noted in a short amount of time. So make sure you take the time to have a life outside work to make work worth it.

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Post ID: @2fhf+U1RmDaO

Yall just look busy in the office when the man is around for 8 hours staring at the computer screen and occassionally click around a random generated word document and not spend any time polishing your dead brains with new techs (not all. plus some millennials are dumb--ses too) then call it working hard must reward.

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Post ID: @2xzw+U1RmDaO

I am a millennial. My job requires producing reports and I have 3 peers. We have our own portfolio. Including my boss they are all gen Xers. Let me tell you Boi. I can do what all 3 of my team's one week's worth of work in one day, 2 hours to be exact. Because they do not know how to use excel formula, do not want to learn, and my boss does not know what is excel is to even begin to care. Dell's downfall is you stupid old bois being promoted in and kept around through network a.k.a. kiss assing.

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Post ID: @2xlo+U1RmDaO

What I find ironic is that being in my sixtes and suddenly on a PIP though my performance is at worst better than 80% of my peers that Dell is indeed trying to weed out the older higher paid workers. Trouble is they are then keeping the burnt out a-- kissing middle and upper management folks who haven't sold anything in 20 years. Dell wants to save on cost do away with the multiple layers of field engineers , stop paying AE's on products they have no skin in the game on, couldn't explain if their lives depended upon, just let them sell the laptops and servers they know well and let the more complicated sales be done by those they aren't commodity driven. Fire half the RSD's, stop moving folks around just to give them a management job especially when you put them in a position over a product sales force that they know nothing about its nuts. Dell is totally f---ed up in so many ways. I knew they would go public this year MD knows he has an albatross of debt he can't get from under so go public get the debt off his shoulders, fire half the work force, hire cheap and inexperienced , rape and pillage for a few more years then leave and declare yourself a visionary.

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Post ID: @2ogi+U1RmDaO

I spent 40 years in the Hi-Tech arena, and worked my a off the entire time. Typical days started with me arriving in the office at 6:00 AM at the latest, and trying to get out of the office by 4 PM. After a 15-20 minute drive home, I'd connect via VPN and carry on the day with afternoon teleconferences and working on specifications until ~ 7-8 PM every evening. If you want to survive in the Hi-Tech industry there is no such thing as work-life balance. What Millennials really need to understand (and few do) is that to get anywhere in Hi-Tech you have to forget about work life balance and dedicate yourself to the job, or become a royal A kisser to some worthless manager

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Post ID: @1eyp+U1RmDaO

This is by far, one of the dumbest things I have seen posted on this site. Every generation thinks the next generation is doing it wrong. Talk to your parents. Their generation felt the same way about you. Also, Millennials have just worked out that a company doesn't care about its employees. You are a number. If they need to adjust numbers and yours comes up. No loss on their part. Millennials have noted that and try to have a better work life balance. I say this as someone who isn't a Millennial. Additionally, loading your workforce with only older workers who will eventually retire is a terrible idea. As in all scenarios you need to have a balanced workforce.

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Post ID: @1prx+U1RmDaO

"No idea what work is really all about..."

Is that the thing where you arrive at 7 am, d*ck around for 3 or 4 hours, complain about millennials arriving at 9 or 10, then leave at 3 - and then talk about all the hard work you put in? While at least this millennial is actually doing work at all times of day?

See we can all generalize. Now maybe I could finish saving up for a house if I could just stop buying this avocado toast /s

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Post ID: @1wvs+U1RmDaO

Agreed, American Millennials have this sense of entitlement without putting in the work, and this is why other countries are continuously gaining on the US. As the old guard retires there will be no one left to fill their shoes because these Millennials have no idea what work is really all about.

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