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In August, 2017, Oracle's massive salesforce received an email from Rich Geraffo, Oracle's executive vice president responsible for North American sales.

In it, he told the 35,000-strong sales team to essentially quit gaming the system in the way they were landing cloud sales, according to the email viewed by Business Insider.

He discussed "winning with integrity," and set out a long list of no-no's for salespeople. The items included things like only selling products and services that customers will really use, putting all terms in writing, and justifying discounts offered to customers.

Some 10 months later, in June, Oracle surprised the financial world by changing the way it reported cloud revenue, blending it into its traditional software sales, which essentially hid cloud revenue from view. Oracle didn't wait until the fiscal year ended. It made the change to the fourth quarter results, which ended in May. That meant it did not report the full year's final cloud performance, even though cloud has become critical to the company's future.

When concerned Wall Street analysts asked if this change was an attempt to hide problems in Oracle's cloud business, Mark Hurd, one of Oracle's CEOs, called the change a "nothing burger," and attributed the change to adopting new accounting standards.

However, an Oracle salesperson who's been with the company for several years told Business Insider that the change could reflect something else: that not all of the cloud revenue was from customers who were really using Oracle's cloud.

It's not clear that there's a connection between the email from Geraffo asking salespeople to only sell products and services that customers will really use and Oracle's decision to stop reporting cloud revenue separately.

But the change in reporting does give us a reason to explore the tricks of the trade that may have helped Oracle jump start its most important new business.

'Cancel and replace'

One of the ways Oracle's sales people beefed up cloud sales — and their own commissions, which were heavily tied to how much cloud they sold — was a tried-and-true method, according to the salesperson. It involved including cloud credits on a customer's contract even if the customer didn't want the cloud product, this person said.

Mark Hurd with employees Oracle

The customer would get discounts on the products they did want for agreeing to buy the cloud products they didn't and save money overall.

That's a common practice. By bundling in products and making them essentially free to the customer, they get to try them with little risk and will maybe sign on later for real. And Oracle isn't the only enterprise company to do this for a cloud business.

"Thousands of deals happens every week, where customers buy more than they need," the salesperson said.

But there was a second, more questionable tactic being done three and four years ago, according to the people familiar with it, which could have impacted Oracle's business in its fiscal 2018, which ended in May.

It's known as "cancel and replace," according to Craig Guarente, CEO of Palisade Compliance. Guarente is a former Oracle vice president who now works on the other side of the table, helping Oracle's customers negotiate contracts with the software giant.

"Cancel and replace" is essentially a grand bargain with customers that lets them out of paying a lot of money for a support contract on those unwanted products, if they agree to spend that money instead on Oracle's cloud even if they don't want and won't use the cloud, Guarente and the salesperson said.

Unwanted bills, unwanted products

To understand "cancel and replace," it's important to understand how Oracle makes its money.

The company makes three times more money on support contracts and on renewing licensing with existing customers than it makes on selling new products to customers.

And Oracle has become a master of locking customers into paying more and more for their support and renewals over time through tough contractual terms, Guarente said. Anything that lets them out of those contractual terms would make customers happy, but wouldn't be as good for Oracle's bottom line.

For instance, companies that want to use Oracle's database or its popular HR or financial software will get discounts on those products if they also agree to add products they don't want to their contracts, products Oracle wants them to try, and to pay for support for all the products on the contract. Support helps companies properly install and troubleshoot their software.

These are typically three-year contracts and, with discounts, it can cost them less overall to take all those products than to simply pay for the ones they want.

Oracle salespeople and Class Of graduates from left to right Jacob Gerson, Camille French, Dan Elfman, Jacob Gerson Business Insider/Julie Bort

The second year, when the customers receive a hefty bill for support, they may tell Oracle they don't want to pay for support on products they don't use.

Oracle might tell them that if they cancel those products, their discounts are voided and the cost for just the products they want will cost them far more than to continue paying support.

The tactic of "cancel and replace" allowed customers to cancel their long-term, expensive support contracts and replace them with ones that had them paying for "cloud credits," aka hours of usage of Oracle's cloud, even if they never planned to use the cloud.

But it's what happened after those revised contracts expired that caused the salesperson we talked to concern.

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"An Oracle insider explains how some salespeople gamed the system to sell more cloud..."

I knew the executive management would pass the buck to the sales team, after the sales teams were instructed to do so by executive management. Its not "gaming" the system, it was the "system."

If you had no deal at a customer for cloud you could reduce the support cost 50 cents on every dollar you spent on cloud.

If the customer did not bite, you could do an LMS audit and uncover unlicensed software and features that would require a hefty sum of money. Then the customer could make the audit go away as well as reduce support cost by purchasing unwanted cloud products.... All of this was touted loudly by executives as "Cloud Revenue"

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Post ID: @biz+UD903Ze

Former CSM here. 100% truth to this sales process. NPA and DOA are real and effect mostly ERP and Sales Cloud.

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Post ID: @mma+UD903Ze

The GERAFFO email edict is/was for legal defense only for the company. These sheisters in the c-suite are not dumb. They are calculating. Like this original post.

The next level of managers below RG was carrying out as per usual. Cancel & replace is still a thing.

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Post ID: @evc+UD903Ze

DOA (DEAD ON ARRIVAL) and NPA (NO PLANNED ADOPTION) cloud contracts.... Look into these

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