Thread regarding Intel Corp. layoffs

Beyond 10nm?

Ok 10nm is not at its best but Intel (and competition too I would guess) has at least next 2 generations in the works. So 7 nm should be somewhere good with 5 nm in design phase maybe?

Intel needs to give some info on where it is with manufacturing!

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Post ID: @OP+VhgU3pS

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TSMC and Samsung are producing and selling chips using smaller manufacturing processes (i.e 7nm). Intel is not able to catch-up in time. So R&D and CapEx resources are non existent at Intel. Guess you don't know how to read a balance sheet or understand Intel's cost structure.

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Post ID: @3zoq+VhgU3pS

@VhgU3pS-1dwc - Intel has more resources than TSMC and Samsung when comparing R&D and CapEx on semiconductor business.

Samsung includes DRAM and other stuff where Intel is not involved in, TSMC has other nodes which Intel is not involved in too I'd guess.

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Post ID: @2qwc+VhgU3pS

Beyond 10nm is 22nm. Murthy's law.

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Post ID: @2wal+VhgU3pS

14nm late, 10nm MIA

Catch 22, limited engineers and Fab capacity, what to do?

Spend more on 10nm and delay 7 and 5 or dump 10 and double down on next node and hope the mistakes won’t be repeated, indeed an interesting decisions to be made. Intel LTD can’t do everything and must choose as the are in pickle at the moment aren’t they. They don’t have the scale and resource as TSMC and Samsung do

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Post ID: @1dwc+VhgU3pS

https://www.extremetech.com/computing/268407-intel-delays-broken-10nm-into-2019-hires-jim-keller-to-fix-it

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

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Post ID: @1uuw+VhgU3pS

We are so awesome we don't need no stinking EUV! We will implement tock-tick to fullfil Murthy's Law!

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Post ID: @1zvz+VhgU3pS

https://www.extremetech.com/computing/276376-intel-reportedly-wont-deploy-euv-lithography-until-2021

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Post ID: @1ysq+VhgU3pS

Further node delelopment requires EUV.

You can go to news.google.com and search for EUV or "Euv intel". Basing on the search results I conclude that Intel not doing well in this area.

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Post ID: @1gnz+VhgU3pS

Depends on state of EUV

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Post ID: @1yjm+VhgU3pS

Haven't you heard, OP? We are going back to 22nm. Never mind 7 or 5nm. We don't need no stinking advanced process nodes! Intel is absolutely AWESOME!

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Post ID: @1brf+VhgU3pS

Every generation bases many modules on prior generation tools and process and broken 10nm means no learning for 10nm, and expect 7nm to be late and low yielding based on that alone. Once the virtuous cycle is lost as it was starting with 14nm it spins to total implosion very quickly.

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Post ID: @kgx+VhgU3pS

All the manufacturing plans were lost in a fire when someone in RA put a Basis watch in a charging bowl.

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