Thread regarding Oracle Corp. layoffs

NA CSM - I quit after the all hands

Heard the all hands by CB and then the Ad S our VP in his, I am so happy I am leaving Oracle, this division is very clearly about to shut down.

They even got a finance guy to talk about comp, the guy sounded more like a sales guy than a finance guy, seem like he was pitching the comp plan, did a decent job but lol.. be a finance guy but we all can see the numbers are not there.

Not sure why people are hanging out, we all know the end is near, so the RIF is coming, no one is safe, one of the VP was laid off last week , so do you think you can survive ?.

guys there is still time, get out before its too late.

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Post ID: @OP+VjAYbyq

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Word in the halls at HQ CB will be out by end of March. If she doesn’t execute she is out.

She doesn’t appear to have any friends at her peer level or above. It’s interesting to hear the things they say about her.

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Post ID: @3mgo+VjAYbyq

CB struggling to understand, let alone implement, the model that she conceptualized a year ago. To OP's note, the vp assigned to cover her largest customers left because she has no vision beyond her all hands kumbaya slides.

Be afraid. Be very afraid.

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Post ID: @3cah+VjAYbyq

So, I don't get how consulting is supposed to work. You just get remote consulting from India with people over the phone? Is that really consulting?

That's not ordinary Consulting, that's ORACLE Consulting.

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Post ID: @2gdg+VjAYbyq

So, I don't get how consulting is supposed to work. You just get remote consulting from India with people over the phone? Is that really consulting?

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Post ID: @2llf+VjAYbyq

No way that I am paying for consulting without them onsite.

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Post ID: @2meg+VjAYbyq

You got it..!

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"....It means they have a lot of consultants available which they need to layoff if they are not tied to any accounts. That’s what it means ..."

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RG has sent strict directive last week... "..staff 70% of every consulting deal from India and Austin Hub.." -- there are 65 consultants in Austin-H and 160 or so in Bangalore...total North America -OCS headcount as of now is 790 or so...20% fat/managers-- that leaves about 300 consultants to get tossed around and/or let go...

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Post ID: @1bbi+VjAYbyq

It means they have a lot of consultants available which they need to layoff if they are not tied to any accounts. That’s what it means .

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Post ID: @1gey+VjAYbyq

what did RG mean by "attach consulting to all of your deals?" Does that mean consulting fees that would be applied for the implementation of cloud fusion contracts?

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Post ID: @1gmt+VjAYbyq

Not really news. Been whispers among those in the know the end is coming in January and February for the CSM org.

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Post ID: @1tqs+VjAYbyq

add this to your deals>>

RG just sent a corp.-wide email and asked for all sales deals-- 'Attach consulting to all your deals...'

good luck...

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Post ID: @ocv+VjAYbyq

It’s not the CSM fault when the customer meet intends to use the products or renew.

If RG says Cloud has to be part of every deal or it won’t get approved, then you include it in the deal. If you know they will approve more aggressive discounts for the customer if you include cloud, then you include it. If the customer doesn’t want to pay support and there is a program to migrate support dollars to cloud dollars, then you did it - especially if you’re going to get paid more and who cares if the customer doesn’t intend to renew. It’s RG and managements problem if they create programs and comp plans to cause that behavior. They are clearly not this stupid.

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Post ID: @ssb+VjAYbyq

CB's NA CSM org

Sales force snake oil is not working and layoff and rifs is an excuse to blame the csm .

We did not have the right people... glad I'm out of the toxic culture

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Post ID: @vtd+VjAYbyq

What GBU were you in?

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