Thread regarding Cisco Systems Inc. layoffs

Even JR (founder of SIP and CTO in Collaboration) never speaks SIP. This shows the no growth area in the field of Collaboration products. Terms like ML and Mining are more a Gimmick.

Even if you would successfully convert callmanager into the cloud it would still fail as a strategy, unless you sell it as a product and not as a service. Customers that buy CallManager dont buy it because of the Cisco brand they bough it because it was farily stable on-prem solution compared with what the competition offers MS,Avaia ETC. Support since last few years also is not good therefore SaaS for cisco is just something to avoid the current webex outage is a prime example of this, and the utter lack of knowledge exhibited by the recent hires, where some are eve treated as subject matter experts but are in fact ccna level.

I agree spark made things worse since it was targeted to a audience that simple does not exist outside U.S, this Millenial pseudo IT persona that is not old enough to have work with IRC.Agree also that scrum is just idiocracy, hireing allot of middle management for it and low quality engineers.

Cisco has always worked with Partners, it has been one of its greatest strengths, that allow them to overcome other brands, what to change this? go ahead.

OTT model for the spark and such, spend 20 years developing standards and practices for Voice and Video QOS and then shifting all to Over The Top internet based model for real time media traffic " cuz of reasons and its teh future", just waiting on the ISPs to start degrading traffic since internet is a best effort at best, not to mention peering problems and so on making any solution ISP dependant.

Pivot to SW? To the cloud?

Haha

Seriously, cisco in the cloud is a total joke.

Let's take one example - Cisco had 100+ engineers employed for 5+ years to convert the call manager into cloud offering. While it worked (mostly) it ended up bundled with Spark, err Teams, which couldn't be given away.

Not that it mattered - since the boneheaded management thought that trying to sell a CLOUD service through 3rd party "partners" was a good idea. Seriously, they actually thought they could convince external partners to sell a cloud service despite there being no hardware to sell/service or software to support. Yeah - they got right on that.

In the end, all we did was spend around $100M to convert from scrum-lite to scrum-bad. (Seriously, micromanagers tracking velocity, scrum masters who went home at noon after a hard day, program managers who rarely, if ever, actually wanted to see demos.)

Couple of years have gone by and all of the G11+ and management responsible for clusterf*ck are still there. Some things never change.

Cisco's strategy is to aggressively lobby governments to prevent certain sectors from implementing white box equipment.

"Pivot to software? Webex was just down for 72 hours", right on the money,

software does not sell that good, cisco is unable and for that matter any other shop on the market to make their sofware at least as good as the hardware they sell, clients will not buy buzz words.

Current Cloud Solutions are just a buzz for remotley managed datacenters, wonder who many "old" cisco boxes they run on these. Some of these "clould" providers are runing old 2600 series cisco routers, talk about future proof lol.

With boxing again buzz for something that exists since the beginning of networking , wonder how many of these exist at the core of the Providers

SDN again buzz, for poorly built ipsec hub-spoke clueless developer managed structures that know nothing about networking.

Developed by id--ts for id--ts to buy,

The main issue with Cisco is exacly this Cloud or Bust mentality, this is exactly wath will bring them down if they continue.

Pivot to software? Webex was just down for 72 hours