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Oracle: Cloud Quiet

With the last quarter's results out, we thought we would update this chart to see if Oracle's cloud services had slowed further, or made a turnaround.

The problem is, we can't.

Oracle has decided to fold its cloud services revenue in with its legacy license support figures into a new “cloud services and license support” line, which now accounts for 72 per cent of revenues. In the last quarter, this business segment grew 3 per cent, while the other three business lines shrank.

Perhaps more tellingly, “cloud services and licence support” recorded its first decline sequentially in two years.

However, there might be another way to see how Oracle's views its cloud prospects — by looking at its capital expenditures. This is because data centers, which host the digital bits floating in the ether, require a ton of upfront investment.

As you can see, 2015 marked an inflection point as Oracle ramped up its cloud business. The slightly lower spend in the 2018 financial year, $1.7bn versus $2bn in 2017, might give investors food for thought. If Oracle is so bullish on the cloud growth, why the drop off?

This capital expenditure slowdown is even more pronounced when Oracle's cash spend is stated as a per cent of revenues. Last year, as revenues grew 6 per cent, capital expenditures fell to only 4.4 per cent of revenues

Still, $1.7bn might seem like a chunk of money to throw at a product line. Well, that is until you consider what its big three cloud rivals — Google, Amazon and Microsoft — spent on capital expenditure as a per cent of revenues over the same period. Amazon and Google spent nearly 12 Billion Each, over 6 times the investment of Oracle.

So if not on capital expenditures, where is Oracle spending its cash? Readers might be shocked, shocked, to hear it loves a stock buyback. Last quarter, Oracle's buyback bill came to $10bn, 25 times its $383m capital expenditure line, and almost as much as the $11bn it spent last year. A further $12bn has been authorised by the board.

Catz believes its “stock is an unbelievable buy, so we are buying back”. Can't fault that logic. But with 1 per cent revenue growth, less visibility on the cloud business and a share price trading at 5 times revenues, investors may begin to agree to disagree.

https://ftalphaville.ft.com/2018/10/03/1538575273000/Oracle--cloud-quiet/

Great article! But here is the real rub. From the start LE was against cloud:

https://www.cbronline.com/cloud/he-said-what-5-things-larry-ellison-actually-said-about-cloud-4563323/

Direct quote from LE:

"We’ll make cloud computing announcements because, you know, if orange is the new pink, we’ll make orange blouses. I mean, I’m not gonna fight this thing … well, maybe we’ll do an ad. Uh, I don’t understand what we would do differently in the light of cloud computing, other than market … you know, change the wording on some of our ads."

And so that is what Oracle has done. Oracle rented some data centers, hired a few developers and changed the wording in its Marketing ads. As the rest of the competition sprints ahead, Oracle spends its cash on propping up its stock price.

To me its quite clear. LE and Oracle have thrown in the towel. Its done, it has outsourced talent for cheap labor and has no vision for any of its products. It tries to force customers into the Oracle cloud through software audits and refuses to make an even playing field for other cloud providers on its database technology.

It seems that Oracle is deliberately winding down operations. I am certain this will equate into more employee reductions in force in the very near future.

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first point would be to use the buyback fund to actually invest in really working and attractive cloud infrastructure, second step would be to reinvigorate the onprem deals.

Using the buyback money to invest in real infrastructure will not happen. LE has to prop up the stock for his own personal loans against it. He has no interest in improving oracle, he's just in it for the short term. Oracle is his personal stash of cash. Nothing is going to change.

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Post ID: @2kcf+VtWBa0y

...and even with all the "customers forcing" tactics that Oracle is pushing, results are embarassing...

in a double digit growing market, in Q1FY19 we had a NEGATIVE growth in all cloud areas, only SaaS/ERP was close to flat (but still negative).

unfortunately I don't have the numbers for Q4FY18, but I strongly suspect the same scenario.

it's incredible how an old dinosauric company like IBM has adopted a much better strategy, trying to have a sit in the cloud show but maintaining a strong position on onprem. Oracle instead is killing, or better s---c-ding, onprem deals to prop up a cloud proposal which is not attractive and not competitive at all. result is we got negative YoY growth on both onprem areas, lics (more) and hw (less), and the YoY 3% (three percent !!!) growth we had on the so called "Cloud services and license support" was only possible thanks to ula renewal.

I really really really hope someone in the upper management will convince LE that this is the wrongest possible strategy, we are still in time to steer back to a more successful strategy. first point would be to use the buyback fund to actually invest in really working and attractive cloud infrastructure, second step would be to reinvigorate the onprem deals.

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Post ID: @2hse+VtWBa0y

DJ is now in charge of all cloud at Oracle and he has no interest in OCI-C or OCC so he is pretty much killing them off. Hard to see what the long term strategy is given the minimal data center investments.

Nothing at Oracle is ever done for real technical reasons. Who gets whacked depends only on who knows who and who likes who. That's it. Total waste of time company. Nothing will ever be technically achieved. It's just a game of thrones, everyone trying to stay alive and do as little work as possible. Oracle is a waste of space.

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Post ID: @2djf+VtWBa0y

correction, Oracle has spent $21 Billion in buybacks over the past 4 quarters.

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Post ID: @1dia+VtWBa0y

DJ is now in charge of all cloud at Oracle and he has no interest in OCI-C or OCC so he is pretty much killing them off. Hard to see what the long term strategy is given the minimal data center investments.

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Post ID: @1wwn+VtWBa0y

OCC is being killed as well. There will be no new sales. Layoffs have already started to happen in OCC outside the US.

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Post ID: @1wkg+VtWBa0y

They did try to replace OCI classic if you remember, they hired hundreds in a Cloud 2.0 group in Seattle. Maybe, just maybe, they didn't get the talent they were looking for.

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Post ID: @1pmc+VtWBa0y

OCI classic is being killed off no new investment at all. We

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Post ID: @1khi+VtWBa0y

You are being led by a senile id--t! Get out!

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Post ID: @1lwa+VtWBa0y

LE is an id--t.

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Post ID: @1koa+VtWBa0y

Oracle is a dying company, all LE is doing is hanging on to as much of the support and DB revenues as he can for as long as he can, then shut the door and turn off the lights. Even race who ends up six feed under first, old man LE or oracle.

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Post ID: @1ckg+VtWBa0y

To make it worse, there is a move now to get the customer to go from Oracle Cloud Infrastructure Classic to the "new" Oracle Cloud Infrastructure. Good luck with that. Good luck with the customers who have invested a lot of money in Classic and is being "pushed" to OCI.

If you are working on the Classic side, get your resume ready or try to get a job in the OCI side. That'll at least prolong the suffering for a few more years.

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