Thread regarding Xerox Corp. layoffs

Labor organizing should have happened long ago for the professional services ranks. But, it’s never too late to stick up for yourselves.

I have to wonder if part of the strategy to keep the lid on all the layoffs was to prevent any organizing activity from occurring.

Look for information being posted on bulletin boards and handed out on organizing. We have folks in Webster and several other sites with information.

The professional ranks (product development engineers, technicians, service engineers, r&d scientists, ect) need to unionize. Strength in numbers will stop the bleeding.

So sad to see what has happen to this once

“GREAT” company...

People should take a hard look at executive compensation, then decide who is winning. It’s an open and shut case for me.

Not to sound glib, but people are already scaling back their effort. It’s been happening for some time and will likely continue. It’s not the Xerox of 10 years ago.

Sound and reasonable advice

I think that some people are missing the OP’s point. As I read it the OP isn’t advocating goofing off on company time or reducing the quality of your output. He’s just saying that working EXTRA hours on nights, weekends, holidays and during vacations will not be rewarded or appreciated. Sure, your immediate manager might appreciate it but that will not be enough to save your job or ensure enough of a raise to offset the increasing cost of benefits.

I would have to agree with this. There was a time when the extra effort was appreciated but in the past couple of years it has become an expectation that employees should be on call 24/7. Holidays and Saturdays have been turned into workdays (I literally mean required workdays) to meet corporate deadlines making it difficult to make personal plans. I have been asked to take my laptop on vacation because deadlines have been accelerated. I already needed to work weekends & evenings for a week or two prior to vacation to ensure that everything was covered. This all is in addition to the overtime that I routinely put in anyway during the crunch times. Overtime which was already increasing as I tried to cover for positions that had been eliminated or off-shored. Since my position is salaried there is no additional compensation for the increased hours.

If you really think that it’s selfish and lazy to think that I should be able to make plans to spend my evenings, weekends & vacations with my family after putting in a 40-50 hour week then we need to agree to disagree. If you think that in the current environment cutting back to 40 hours is selfish and lazy, I would also have to disagree. You’re not helping to save the company. You’re being used by Icahn, Deason and co. to cover for the cost reductions long enough for them to make a buck.

I agree, OP is lazy. Also, WTF is a "Labor Clap Back" ?

“The difference between successful people and really successful people is that really successful people say no to almost everything” - Warren Buffett

This is a simple consideration beyond one persons post....Have hard working first line Xerox employees been pushed too far? Or are they lazy and whiners?

From what I’ve seen, I think largely they are pushed too far and Daily management practices are aweful. It used to be about talent and teamwork. Plus, the Managers selected used to be talented. It feels very much like living inside of a B movie, and that comes from a person with considerable grit. Very rarely have I ever seen a lazy Xerox employee and even when I did, it was clear they were suffering from burnout from regular long hours and stress. They needed a real vacation and usually took their laptops with them during their “break” at their talentless managers request.

It takes a real s---fish fleck to attack a person just because they don’t want to always be working

Some of these replies are really funny. @WTVA5wI-3rqx came to the site to bash good hard working people rather than offer a reasoned reply. Perhaps they are the same person providing multiple management responses on the board to amplify their “best interest” and get you to work all the time. They refer to this site as being laughable, which tips their hand and shows their intentions.

Why managers, hr and executives would fire people like OP immediately? Because they are not true leaders and only know how to take advantage hardworking people like OP to get their bonus and big salary! They are not qualified to lead people to achieve success. Otherwise, true and qualified leaders, plus OP and other hardworking coworkers would only make Xerox better. Unfortunately, it is not like that. Sad...

3rqx...It seems to me that many believe in similar view of original post. While each story may vary, the original poster makes a strong point.

There are thousands at Xerox that share the same point of view. Are you are a part of the never ending work day propaganda, devaluing employees, and or treating them like garbage?

I am Thinking yes. I gave you your first down vote.

The reaction system is the most laughable feature of this site. No other thread has more than 10 per post and you want me to believe that somehow this one got over 100 reactions??? Clearly the op wants to give value to his/her erroneous point of view.

There are not many people who are on their death bed and lament that they wish they put in more hours at the office. This is true no matter where you work. I am a workaholic who recently retired and I have regrets. I put Xerox ahead of my wife and kids. I cannot get that time with them back.

To the OP, I wish I did not retire and you worked for me. I would fire you immediately.

Food for thought: Some might say that the person who works all the time is the person who is really screwing over their coworkers. They have chosen to put aside the people around them for their own personal ambition. Please, They aren’t working for their coworkers. They set the wrong unachievable expectation for others and management thinks it should be the norm. The workaholic is only for themselves and their own personal advancement and leaves the people at work and in their personal life behind.

What happened to work smart and not hard?

Xerox doesn’t even believe in the automation, efficiency and productivity it sells. It’s so dysfunctional that it’s absurd.

Work less people. Xerox is junk status and the massive corporate tax cuts weren’t even enough to keep it more stable. It’s on life support.

Only managers, hr and executives would disagree with op. The simple fact is that they demand you work all the time and that is not right. Op merely stated to not go the extra mile on extra hours and I agree 100%.

If they call someone mediocre who does quality work during normal working hours then the problem is their lack of planning and talent, and not a problem with you!!!

The failed turnaround has shown no growth for many many years and you should not be unfairly burdened with the failure of management. Xerox deserves zero loyalty. Full stop...no extras.

These comments are ridiculous. The OP didn't say to work less than you're being paid for, they just said not to work extra hours. Until the company shows some level of respect for its remaining employees, and communicates any true direction that we can rally behind, that sure sounds like good advice to me. Yes, do the job you're being paid for. Yes, look for better opportunities elsewhere, at least until/ if Xerox senior management actually sets and funds useful & actionable direction. I've worked at Xerox for many decades now, and (like many others) have never seen the company in such a dysfunctional state. I would like to see it turn around, but haven't seen any evidence yet that there is any real interest (i.e. proactive actions) on the part of our various new management "leaders" to make that happen.

Such a mediocre attitude. This is in my opinion why xerox is in its current situation.

You need to just find a new job. Doing less work means you're just ****ing over your co-workers. Screw you.

Or better yet. Just quit and find a job they can do with passion... doing a mediocre job will get you nothing.