Thread regarding General Motors layoffs

Degree glorification

I use to run a small company of about two dozen individuals as a general manager. In my time, we achieved a near ten fold fold increase in revenue, and increased global participants to about the same. Now, of those within my team, few came with degrees, and most did not. Not following the outline of corporate America, I brought on people with a passion and a talent, with a specific skill set not offered from piece of paper. It was wildly successful. To this day, what I recall among this specific experience was that those whom challenged me the most, those that contributed the least, in my own little world, were the degreed candidates. That's not to say that's how it is in the real world, or in my other life experiences, just in this specific experience which could have been a one off. I believe that managers decisions will always make or break the department/company. If you are dull at the top, you will acquire dull talent. I was a general manager, without a degree, which raised company revenue ten fold.

My single issue within GM and other like companies, is that there is not a system inside to expose and utilize a rare gem, that might identify to the talent caliber of perhaps a Steve Jobs, a Bill Gates, etc, working among their ranks, before they actually leave to do their own monumental things in life.

As for GM, they do have the knowledge center. I was asked from my colleagues why I don't teach there. I'm not qualified because I lack a piece of paper. They do offer coursework, but it's not in the manner in which applies to an actual degree. It's a skilled trades type of learning, meaning what you do there, applies to what you do within GM in real life, you know, real world stuff and not college fluff in which hiring managers actually hire. The problem is not the knowledge center itself. The problem is that if it's not online and readily available, your manager will likely tell you that if it isn't relevant to your specific job function, it's not needed. You don't have the time to go and sit over there an learn.

In my time at GM, the sole reason I was able to help train and mentor hundreds of people within my sphere, was because of my diverse exposure to real world experiences spanning so many years. I come with no degree, yet I trained hundreds of individuals with associates, bachelors, masters, and dual degrees. I trained these people, yet I have no degree. What I do have, are more friends and acquaintances, more recommendations and recognition than anyone else I've worked with. Let that sink in for the future managers of the world. Find these kinds of people if you really want a successful group.

As an analogy FYI. When my vehicle breaks, I don't want the engineer whom designed the part. I want the automotive mechanic that has the technical skillset to keep ALL aspects of the vehicle running. They are much more important to me. If you step up to become a manager, hire all the engineers you want, but you would do yourself a great service, to have a few mechanics on hand, to keep everyone else going.

Excellent post by @WQqdAae-6loc, needed to be on top.

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Jealousy is unbecoming.

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Post ID: @ecje+WWAIoPT

When everyone is deemed special with their dual or triple degrees, whom is considered special any longer? We've witnessed many degreed candidates or master degreed candidates that can't perform.

Could it be possible, that big business and big education are working together to promote a mutually beneficial situation for one another? Could it elevate much higher?

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Post ID: @4fnk+WWAIoPT

Thanks for the re-post. I thought it was a pretty good piece and I'm very happy others agree.

We have a problem in today's world, where the brainwashed of today, believe credentials matter than real world experience. Books and pieces of paper, did not build the buildings of the world, nor engineer the world. Real world experiences, and skill sets, built the world.

And as the example states, when your vehicle breaks down, you don't call the chief of engineering to identify the problem. You call the most skillful candidate to keep it running. Your local auto mechanic with real world hands on experience.

There is a place for everyone. The least qualified in my life experience, and opinion, are the recruiters and human resources of today. They lack the understanding to hire true talent that actually contributes to their companys' success, yet they stand as the line in the sand of quality and talent.

It is quite literally, working with one hand tied behind your back. Tell me I'm wrong.

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Post ID: @4bco+WWAIoPT

Its time to outsource IT just like FCA did....

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“But at GM, mediocrity is king, and those who try to strive for more get beaten down to everyone else’s level“

This this this!!!! This is the mentality that I see in IT all day long. And co-workers. Not all but most. It’s unfortunate that GM culture is mediocrity.

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Post ID: @ufw+WWAIoPT

Agreed, this is a good post. Particularly the bit about GM failing to identify and properly utilize the high performers. As has been shown time and time again, the distribution of productivity in corporate environments follows a Pareto distribution- I.e., a small proportion of individuals do the brunt of the work. (https://scholar.google.com/scholar?hl=en&as_sdt=0%2C3&q=Pareto+employee+productivity+80%2F20&btnG=) The GM corporate environment grinds these individuals to dust. They are often not recognized or rewarded- and in some egregious cases they are even punished (because they are the ones who illuminate issues and make noise, and GM has an aggressively CYOA culture).

I performed exceptionally well in my degree program, and I struggle with GM’s emphasis on the paper- on one hand, it theoretically proves that a person was able to stick with something and Actually Do Work. On the other hand, there are plenty of ways for people to b---s--- their way through college.

So.. hard to say if the ‘degree glorification’ is the actual problem. Seems to me it’s more just that GM does not hire managers who know how to actually, you know, manage. It is crucial that the cream of the crop is rewarded and allowed to thrive. But at GM, mediocrity is king, and those who try to strive for more get beaten down to everyone else’s level.

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