Wondering if anyone's heard who will be doing the work for residential and business 5g
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Contractors will install, union will maintain, hence why we are seeing wireless downsizing as well and more hiring on union side. This company has always operated this way, nothing new.
Not sure where the outside work is going but call center work is going to the fXO center in Saginaw MI.
All kind of contractors in the manholes now . VZ techs are gonna have very limited work with the 5G . In the past VZ has said they want to eliminate trucks going out and wires to the house . That 4 year extension we just got was a blessing and a curse
5g will be done by mostly contractors running fiber to light poles where they have EL to power the mini cells,verizon doesn't have manholes with conduit going to light poles,whos going be micro trenching the fiber,not verizon line gang,it going be contractors...
We've hired a ton of engineers to do the work
Sam who?
Samsung.
IMO, I think some people here are posting what they want to believe, rather than what precedent dictates will likely happen. Or, perhaps it’s just outright trolling, trying to stir the excrement and get a rise out pf people.
@onp, cell phones are also a “wireless product”, yet the unionized wireline group has consistently provided the cell towers that provide the cell service with the fiber feed between the COs and the towers, in areas in which landline is in-house. Now that the antennas are to be smaller and more numerous, how does that in any way change the basic dynamic that has existed between wireline and wireless in the areas that wireline remains in-house and unionized? Seems to me that, regardless of how hard you want to believe it, it changes nothing.
Will unionized be doing work they did not do previously, such as putting up the wireless antennae? IMO, likely not because, other than a very small group (to the best of my knowledge) of guys from the 1990’s that were wireless and union from the days when wireless came into being, that has otherwise not been traditional union work. I also have no idea whether any of them did the tower part anyhow.
Now, Can a group of people vote to unionize if they feel such a move is in their best interest? There is legal precedent that says yes. However, by the nature of the landscape, that’s always harder to do with contractors though, thus the attraction of going contractor for businesses, creating a field where it’s every man for himself, and the lowest bidder, the man that sells himself the moat short, is the, for lack of a better term, “winner”? 🤔
As for the other side of the coin from the anti-union @onp, the union proponents here, you may be only 1/2 right in thinking this new work is obviously yours. Read the letter from the 2016 contractual agreement , the New Contracting Initiatives Letter. I believe it describes, if I am interpreting it correctly, and I definitely may not be, an agreement to end some limitations on contracting come next month, specifically December 31, 2018.
Also, read Article 50, New Businesses. I’m no lawyer but, IMHO, these could be interpreted as not good news to a union member going forward.
Whatever your side, union lover or union hater, it helps to stick to the facts, the precedents, the law, and the logic, when debating these things, decisions that are made above our paygrade. When you let your emotions, and what you wish for o be true, creep in and cloud your argument, you increase the liklihood of tainting the truth, and you’re then more prone to denying the, sometimes, painfully obvious.
Strictly my opinions.
5g is a wireless product so wireline unions will have a hard time making inroads on that — May have been the company’s motivation in locking that contract in. It restricts wireline contracting but not much language on wireless — . Fios availability makes no difference in whether they open the market for 5g. They will get rid of Fios as fast as they can with successful 5g deployment.
I have seen the antennas up n NY already . They are on a lot of street light poles and it ain’t VZ doing it
It is already going up in the northeast
The last place that vz will put 5g is in the northeast areas,and by that time 10 years will have passed,they will do all the other states where they dont have any fios before they do areas in their footprint.
I think crown castle is putting up the antennas and cable for VZ also . If you think that is gonna be a VZ job in the future you are wrong
Asurion
Asurion is doing the home installation.
It is already being done by contractors .
Wireline in northeast will run some of the cable , contractors doing the rest of the work . Any statement to the contrary is BS .
outsourced
Wireline in areas with bargaining rights. Areas without representation will be contractor. Any statement to the contrary is BS. The work is legally protected bargained for work in both the Northeast and Mid-Atlantic, elsewhere no such rights exist and the company can do as it chooses.
Not the wireline guys,will be done by all contractors