Bold and necessary decisions to cleanup the old and aging workforce, most of them are irrelevant to changing dynamics. Junk piling up in so called service delivery centers in Blr *cheap and incapable labor, useless managers and directors s---ing up for survival instead of bringing value, active on social media and marketing the stuff which they are not responsible. It would be good, if Cisco cleans this junk as well.
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Had a job the first day after my LR package finished, making 20% more.
I miss Cisco, but looking back feel fortunate just to have had the opportunity to work there for a long time, but to now have tons more freedom.
Cisco was good, but politics were nauseous. Bring back the bottom 5%. It worked, kept people on their toes.
@hxv, sadly agree :-(
My favorite goodbye email from yesterday was from an older employee. He noted how much training Cisco had put him through and that he would have no break in employment. Basically, Cisco trained this guy really well and then released him to their competitors so that they could hire a few fresh college grads who would probably take years to understand the difference between an IP phone and an Iphone.
As a Cisco share holder and current employee, this company is heading directly to the sh--ter with decisions like that. It is the reason I'm championing voluntarily leaving the company while you can with all my coworkers (leave now, on your terms).
Not only did we lose a valuable employee, we trained them and gave them to our competition. It is like the new executive strategy is to see how many failure to launch kids we can hire all while punching ourselves in our own balls.
To OP: Sounds like you’re trying to rationalize why it’s ok that you’re still there. Maybe someday you’ll see the light. Or you’re just trolling
CR is there to make profit for him and his Execs. Even an illiterate can tell how reducing head count increases share price. This has benefited the investors, Execs and leaders of this cheap thinking.
I made the mistake last 3 years of letting myself be judged opaquely by people far lesser than me. Was g12
Found a job in 2 weeks of being informally told.
30% higher salary and almost no variable component. Very happy with the new colleagues and managers. They have 360 review something cisco abandoned in 2014. Working hard but not feeling the time now that its interesting stuff
To all those still riding the csco horse for inertia or lack of self belief , please do come out and look. The world has moved on and you will realize there are plenty of good things outside.
“Junk” like me got a new job 3 weeks after notification and two other job offers I’m looking at now with higher salaries (20% or more) and I am continuing to excel at what I do. You are in for a rude wake up call when your arrogant a-- gets hit on one of the next quarterly LR’s. It’s not if, it’s when. This LR has been the best thing that has happened to me career wise. And I’m not even in the protected age class. Go troll somewhere else.
Dear OP,
Someday, you'll be older, and you'll also wonder where the time went. Maybe by then you'll finally realize that none of all this game really matters, and you'll wake up and realize how stupid it was to have spent the last decades of your life chasing a bunch of money and building hollow and unfulfilled relationships with people that really don't truly care about your feelings. I hope you make the choice not to have children, so as to retain all your business philosophy for your co-worker family.
Of the fabled 50 billion cash reserve
Next 10 years
5b to execs and friends
25b in stock buybacks to keep wall street happy
30b in never ending buys of software companies attempting to “transform” coupled with layoffs
Only thing is which respectable sw cos want to get bought by csco ? Lot of appdynamics type hustlers will eat their share of the 30b
Bgl to become even more of a toxic place as the wolves turn on one another for declining pie
Battles will be fought, long knives used, blood shall be spilt
Bold decisions, boy you can just hear the stupidity in the post. I know a group that laid off 85% of it's team in the last round. Now they are opening 20 reqs because the director just realized that they can't get all of the work done with the people left and other groups are escalating. Yea, great decision making by the leadership. Lets bring in new people and give them time to come up to speed instead of keeping talented people that already know it. You wonder why our tools are junk.
https://www.sdxcentral.com/articles/news/atts-white-box-cell-site-routers-go-into-production-carrying-live-traffic/2018/12/
Here was a deal i know from a director they were hopeful about. at&t one of the oldest and biggest csco routing clients.
But our small cheap routers and disaggregated sw based off xr are both late late late while others seem to be doing it faster whether its vyatta or msft sonic or cumulus etc etc
One more large 5g customer gone
| Bold and necessary decisions to cleanup the old and aging workforce ...
Dear OP, that’s not bold or necessary, that’s age discrimination & against the law.
Just wait til you get older & see how you like it. It WILL happen. And I’ll bet you’ll be saying “but I stayed relevant in these changing dynamics.
| ... useless managers and directors s---ing up for survival instead of bringing value...
That’s who needs to go. Them & any IC who can’t keep delivering work worth what they’re being paid for. There’s too many managers, directors & VPs.
Same here. I was a senior engineer and picked for the LR last year when my team shifted from one project to a different one.
Kinda funny considering I had more experience in the technology & more than a couple "survivors" said my skills matched perfectly with the new work.
Now at a FAANGM - around a 50% raise, but honestly that is secondary to me compared to the fun of being part of a company that actually values results and not political BS.
Thanks to Chuck’s bold decision, I got LR’d last month, received a job offer with one of the FAANGM within a week with 25% raise and one grade up. So yes Chuck please keep purging “junk” like me. Without this LR, I would have stayed on the cisco gravy train. Now, I am forced to put my skills to better purpose (i.e: working and selling products).
my sources said the engg head evp has lost confidence in ability of blr center to deliver.
what you say might happen - a purge night of the top ranks there who do not code. might be smaller teams, small tightly defined deliverables (more like sprints user stories than waterfall), closely controlled by SJC managers than reporting into a cunning local director & manager overclass.
I think the engineering ranks would be happier with such a setup if merit, effort and knowledge is acknowledged and rewarded than relying on buttering up some director.