Thread regarding General Motors layoffs

The mistaken bet

The unfortunate reality, is no one wants electric vehicles. It's a huge joke internally even within GM. Using some logic, no one today wants sedans today, and they are unprofitable. They want trucks and SUVS, which are profitable. If GM is slated to release 20+ electrified vehicles by 2020, who's going to buy a product no one wants? Sedans already are cheaper than SUVs and trucks. Electric vehicles won't be cheaper, but say they were, people still want trucks and SUVs. Place 20 of these EV's on the market in a limited pool of buyers, and they'll all cannibalize themselves competing for buyers. NO ONE wants them. Even todays Volt and Bolt numbers are an embarrassment.

If you think the layoffs of today are bad. What until you see what's coming on this mistaken bet. No one wants EV's. Autonomous is a joke. I can't wait for snow and ice, as they can't even get dry conditions right. The only viable option out of the package, is taxi services to all via Lyft and Maven. Let's just toss darts at the dart board, see what sticks.

Having vision works both ways. Knowing which path takes you towards evolution, and it's counter, knowing which path and what roadblocks are to be avoided. Part of me wants to see this slow moving train wreck in motion.

On point post from @WtzkfWI-2or .Thought I’d repost it

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Post ID: @OP+WvHGvXO

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I think it's also important to note that GM CEO Mary Barra herself stated, she will never, EVER buy or use a self driving vehicle herself. Conviction is a strong argument for, or against a product. Managed and sold of course, as it's what our customers demand, and what we will deliver.

I also encourage all you guinea pigs to go first. I mean after all, you only have one life to give. Let's test the waters with the blood of your commitment. Someone has to go first in this experiment.

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Post ID: @1qbs+WvHGvXO

Horse and buggy were managed by a human. With exception to the rare breakdown and perhaps a horse freaking out, the human driver was still in control. The automobile, the same rules still apply, with the human driver still in control. The autonomous vehicle, will be left up to calculations and algorithms, and in a life or death situation, will choose whether you live or die. Completely out of your hands, completely out of your control, your life will be measured in survival percentages.

So, which one is not like the other? Had this logic not cross anyones mind?

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Post ID: @1gbg+WvHGvXO

Cars are a joke. Horses and buggies are the only reliable means to get around. A horse has a brain and can see a road is out and will stop.

This is how you sound. Imagine when the technology is improved enough for us to rely on it? Autonomous cars take the number one reason for collisions out of the equation.

I can only hope one day we are able to almost eliminate the likelihood of being hit by some id--t texting.

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Post ID: @mvz+WvHGvXO

Hindsight is 20/20

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Post ID: @dzo+WvHGvXO

Electric vehicles are a total joke. GM thinks that it is in Vogue to launch such a strategy to combat clinate change. Ha! The energy used to refuel such vehicles comes chiefly from coal fired power generating plants, but GM "leadership" says nothing about this. I'll take a gas guzzling SUV over EV anyway.

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Post ID: @qre+WvHGvXO

The EV thing got started in earnest when gasoline was on its way to $4 a gallon and the market didn't anticipate the advances in fracking. Conentional oil peaked in 2006. It wasn't the craziest bet knowing the technology of the time. No one guessed the US would return to being the world's top oil producer.

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