Manager just finished telling me that 48 hrs is the new standard work week and that it will be tracked. Vacation hours must be made up. Reason given was business needs billable hours to make aop. Of course I don’t have a project to work so just waiting for the lay-off.
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It's nothing more than pure, blatant greed. Our greedy execs resent paying top engineering salaries. They foolishly believe engineers are replaceable and arrogantly treat us as if our time has no value. They are looking for "fresh meat" - those are the exact words of a manager. Great. They can give my job to a new grad. The pleasure it gives me in thinking of a new grad trying to do my job is another motivator to get a new job. I can no longer tolerate the working conditions and their complete lack of respect for their employees. I can't wait to turn in my resignation and I have replaced OT hours with a job search 😆😆😆
Wait... I thought Honeywell was trying to retain top engineering talent. Telling high performers how many hours to work is micro managing at the extreme and will push talent out the door. Any engineer or employee worth keeping will step up and work many extra hours whenever it is needed. If you need to baby sit them to get the to do that then there is a problem. Work through it on an individual level. This sounds like clueless executives trying to find a magic bean and accidentally creating a big talent retention problem.
to 7dnv AERO Engineers are forced to account for their time to the nearest tenth of an hour due to government contracts that force a uniform accounting system within an SBU as well as allowing an illusion of control over budgets, etc, in general. Some tolerate it, but most hate it.
Products developed that aren't built or repaired are also pretty meaningless. This is where money is actually made. We have a few examples of flopped NPI or poorly designed that can't be monetized.
But yes, mutual respect is due. Everyone plays a role. Some just don't demand it
Support functions add no value without engineers. You have no product to offer, no IP to create, no support to offer when things don’t work. Support functions live of the sc-aps that follow Engineering. So, a little mutual respect is due.
Engineers; just a bunch of clock counters. Our hourly workforce continues to out shine these babies. Literally every other function (finance, CPS, ISC, HR, Marketing, Sales, etc) understand it's 2019 and a 40 hour week is just a reference not absolute.
@2fft - I was always a block 5 or above. If you get your c-ap done and do it well people leave you alone. I was good enough to get my job done in about 10 hours a week of real work. I streamlined/eliminated work or offshored it to India or Mexicali (not hard to do at HON). Then cruised for an average of 2.5 years in my AERO finance position before I moved on to the next one. I think I figured out my average hourly pay one year after tracking my real work hours. I believe it was something like $200 an hour! I remember that year fondly, I coached my kids sports teams, telecommuted often, took naps, traveled, went on day dates with the wife, volunteered at kids school, etc. It was great! That is what I miss from HON. As long as you got your stuff done and put out quality work, you could either volunteer for projects or coast - your choice. Nobody cared as there were always enough butt chasers who wanted projects because they wanted promotions and more money. I wasn't that guy...I was happy to have family time and a decent salary and to just do my job well. 50-60 hours would absolutely s--- in my opinion. I would be so unhappy to not be around family, coach all those teams and have a better balance in life away from work. AERO finance has plenty of jobs that you can excel in or coast in as long as you are semi intelligent. You make every job your own...about 20/30% was regular job duties and the other 70/80% was always what you wanted to make it in my experience.
@1rwo You're not talking about the same Aero Finance I know. Too many long days and nights working with no resources, and constant SRO and AOP regurgitations. Of course there were always a few slackers who should be elbowed, but if you were a favorite of the prior leader you could get away with anything. Hopefully that will change under the new regime.
There is a difference between timecards, seat time, and “milestones”. Learn which metrics are most impactful to your position.
LOL on the last post. That's HON for you. :-)
To the Finance MGR...I was in AERO Finance for 16 years and probably had 2 weeks the entire time where I worked a full 40+ hours. If you need 50+ hours to get your job done at HON Finance you are definitely not doing it right...do you not enjoy your time off work? Whoever is your boss and told you 50-60 is expectation is a douche and has way too much invested in his position. Most of the folks I was around in finance had plenty of time to surf the net, take long lunches, have cubicle discussions and pretty much waste at minimum half of the day away. There were always a few days a month where you'd have to get c-ap done and hustle...but HON finance has to be the easiest gig in AZ.
Nice. It's taken me 40 years to figure out how to do 50 hours of work in 40 hours. Now I have to figure out how to do 30 hours of work in 48 hours. Large corporations, gotta love em.
Me too can leave . Can walk out any time and take my pension. Even though 62 and have 3 to go to get to medicare there is a level of existence I can tolerate outside of Honeywell , but a level of bs I can't tolerate within Honeywell.
Of course you were informed verbally and not in writing anywhere accessible. Just some PP slide on an executives secured/encrypted laptop.
Once the EEI/Yield approached 100%, who couldn't see that coming?
When I made it to first level Finance Manager I was told to tell my staff 50 - 60 hours is the expectation. I have never had an under 50 hour a week position at Honeywell; must be nice.
lol did you tell your boss to shove it? Remember the choice to work extra is entirely up to you.
For me I know my future with this company. Either layoff or leaving myself once I find something better. I'm perfectly fine with either option.