Thread regarding General Motors layoffs

Is anyone surprised? - “Typical GM”

I hate to say this but the delays we are seeing in the involuntary separation is typical GM.

I know most of us who survived the the downsizing in 2008/9 have already forgotten the “new” GM culture. Promises to be faster, leaner, less bureaucracy has not materialized in the 10 years since.

It’s sad as I consider GM my company. Not anymore. Too much of the old guard remains. Too many managers that push too many meeting, afraid to take the smallest risk, and very happy delivering the bare minimum.

So as we wait for our management to get their sh1t together, all I can say is typical GM. I’m anticipating the end of my GM career in the coming weeks but I’m looking at it as a new step in what’s next for me.

Unfortunately I don’t think GM will ever change. They are their own worst enemy in keeping and retaining the best people.

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Do you think they will separate the leader of the HR group responsible for the group causing the delays?

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Post ID: @1kzw+Xh4Imnl

"It’s sad as I consider GM my company. Not anymore."

In my younger years I use to have pride in the company myself. You would work as hard as you could, delivering great work, but it didn't seem to matter. Over the span of decades, you would experience the layoffs, and see your friends laid off, time and time again. You would run across many useless people including managers, and wonder why they were even here. But, still you worked hard because that's what you were taught. After seeing the never ending cycle, I learned that while it was OK to mercenary out my skills for a paycheck, that was the extent of support I would ever give them. I wouldn't drive a GM product if you gave me one - because of the culture of the company.

I recall back around 2008/9 just around the bankruptcy announcement, there was this one guy on one of the shuttles, talking to his broker wanting to buy $1000 in GM stock. I mentioned that it wasn't the best idea right now. Shortly after they s---ed the assets out of the old company, and placed them inside the new GM. All the shareholders got caught holding the bag if they were holding the old ticker. What was this guys fault besides not knowing? He just wanted to support GM, the company he worked for.

I think the new boss is the same as the old boss, is about the most accurate statement. The most important lesson you will ever learn in GM is to be fearful when they start ramping up hiring. It means the time will come in the short future for downsizing. The only thing you can count on, is GM keeping aboard the wrong pool of candidates. They really are their own worst enemy.

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Post ID: @toc+Xh4Imnl

I’m with you...I don’t see my career at GM lasting much longer.

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Post ID: @eze+Xh4Imnl

@Xh4Imnl-bjh remember.. GMIT is just one wing of the company. This site has a lot of GMIT folks because it's easy to discover via googling and that's in IT's wheelhouse- but it's important to remember that there are many potential perspectives, here, and no one person can see the full picture. The OP seems to be speaking from far more than just experience gathered in the last few years.

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Post ID: @tsf+Xh4Imnl

There was never a new GM culture, it was an occupation by Dell and HP executive and their buddies. To grow GM IT from 1500 to 11,000 was a foolish plan. Old ideas from Dell/HP and good ole boy system has not made GM iT great, but a nightmare for any one not connected to the occupation leadership. I have seen too much nonsense and good people lose out of leader roles.

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Post ID: @bjh+Xh4Imnl

New boss is the same as the old boss. They just changed the mask and gender. Fooled a lot of people with that one.

Breaking glass ceiling actually means watch for falling shards raining down upon your head. Will bloody a lot of people.

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