Thread regarding Oracle Corp. layoffs

Manager does not discuss ratings and ratings are hidden from employees

It seems to be an accepted practise for not disclosing year end ratings and for giving no feedback to employees. Managers are not held accountable for disclosing and discussing about it with employees. Other companies seems to disclose and discuss such things religiously. HR also seem to oversight this mistake.

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Post ID: @OP+YK7lRt7

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The last 3 years I put all 5's and nobody said a thing. Then I was riff'ed, coincidence, probably. I also got small raises and RSU's 2 out of 3 of those but I don't think any of this matters if you are on someones list.

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Post ID: @7ydg+YK7lRt7

This is John, your manager. I would like to discuss your performance rating this Friday, I'll set a 15 min mandatory meeting to go over past perf and next steps. When you come please bring any belongings as you won't need to return to your desk anymore.

Have a wonderful day

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Post ID: @7lhq+YK7lRt7

Official salary ranges increase every year. Your salary, unless your are in a special area like OCI, does not. This will eventually put you below range. Just ask your manager.

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Post ID: @4iln+YK7lRt7

I know my IC salary range and no - it's not surprising at all. It's a very large range of about $120K for an IC3 to IC4 and I'm at the bottom of it. The reason (so my manager informs me) is that it gives Oracle the opportunity to assess my value and compensate me over a long period of time. It's been 6 years and I've gotten nothing in raises, nothing in stock and each year have been told the same story. Get a clue - these are fake ranges that no one can justify and are used to keep you in your same pay grade forever.

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Post ID: @3udl+YK7lRt7

How many people know the salary rang on your IC level or title? If you don’t you should ask your manager, you may be surprise.

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Post ID: @2qsc+YK7lRt7

@YK7lRt7-1igw

The last three years I was at Oracle, I cut and pasted the previous year's appraisals. Saved me time and it made no difference.

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Post ID: @2znh+YK7lRt7

The last three years I was at Oracle, I got no reviews from the manager. I filled out the goals and my review of myself, but manager never did anything. No one was enforcing that. Nobody cared. It was a waste of my time. I left. You should leave also.

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Post ID: @1igw+YK7lRt7

Oracle managers are working to keep their thugs/yes-men. They don't care if those people are id--ts or not. Other people are considered unnecessary. If they realistically evaluated everyone, their thugs could get laid off, instead of the better people.

Plan is to keep the thugs/yes-men, and then hire in India or somewhere cheap, like new graduates. Then get those people to do all the work, give the credit to the manager's thugs and complain about the new-hires. Then the new-hires will get laid off and the whole thing can repeat itself.

Oracle is a corrupt company. You can't expect anyone to care. That includes HR. HR does what the managers tell them to do. The managers only care about their loyal followers. Oracle is totally screwed.

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Post ID: @1dkz+YK7lRt7

The annual appraisals at O have always been a complete and total joke with no relevance to anything whether promotions, pay, bonuses - just a useless paper exercise most often way behind schedule because nobody cares to provide legal protection of the “see we do what we’re supposed to be doing” kind. Useless rubbish !

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Post ID: @zhc+YK7lRt7

Our group also is required to complete the annual appraisals but there is no tangible result other than we sign off on whatever nonsense we wrote down about our great yearly accomplishments. Mostly exaggerated bs and glowing comments about teamwork and revenue growth. It's not tied to raises or promotions, certainly looks good that HR can check off that box "see- we do CARE about our employees! - we made them write all this stuff down and sign it" I'd agree that Oracle cares very little about the employee and only about the appearance of doing the right thing.

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Post ID: @fet+YK7lRt7

That certainly has not been my experience. We are required to do annual appraisals and if we don't, we have HR and mgmt up our a-- because they are watching for 100% completion which involves providing a final rating to the employee who must sign off on the appraisal. That's how it always was with the old system. We'll see what the new one looks like. I believe you could always see your final rating as well in the old system.

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Post ID: @sax+YK7lRt7

Mr. Blah Blah, by ELO.

From Guardians of the Galaxy.

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Post ID: @fwk+YK7lRt7

I see your confusion! But let me explain how it works (1) Oracle does not function as "other companies" (2) Oracle has zero, zero, zero interest in you as a person, employee or anything other than a money making widget (3) HR (by default) also has zero interest (4) Who (from Oracle) ever told you that appraisals or "focals" as Oracle sometimes calls them - mean anything to your career, your personal growth or to a raise/promotion? - if anyone told you that - they lied (5) Results are you have no career guaranteed, no raises, no stock, no personal goals that mean anything at Oracle. Accept it and either live with reality or leave for a better company

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Post ID: @vtu+YK7lRt7

AFAIK, there are two ratings. One is the fake data for HR, another is real but internal for the management. I am not sure it has been changed yet, I was told by a RIFed M4.

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Post ID: @njq+YK7lRt7

Let me summarize:

"blah blah, oracle bad, blah, laid off, blah, bitter."

But you're right. Oracle is horrible!

Watches door to see ppl leaving in droves...

tumbleweed blows by

waiting for the herd of ppl to leave...

crickets

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Post ID: @sdf+YK7lRt7

Oracle is one the Best worst company to give impotence to employee performance appraisal. They don't care. In other companies they give high priority to see your goals alignment to organization goals as well as you personal achievements. Here many s--t managers not worrk and give value. How does an employee evaluated if it is like this? This is the most impacting area to Oracle growth. HR is zero role in this scope. God knows facts.

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