Thread regarding Union Pacific Corp. layoffs

With PSR, nobody wins except the shareholders

Ah yes, the PSR trend continues. For anyone that really believed that this was going to end at the end of last year, was badly mistaken. I know something like this was posted a while ago, but the cuts are never going to end. If anyone from the CP posted here then you'll know exactly what I'm talking about. PSR operates on a simplified idea of doing more with less, obviously. The cuts WILL continue until that magical operating ratio of 55 is achieved. There's companies popping up that provide services that were performed by company personnel. These companies offer these services, at very substantial cost reduction, therefore providing the same work at less cost. It's a very attractive option to the UP. The CP gutted its workforce, closed many locations, and became a very unreliable RR. The new CEO has actually reversed some of the PSR methods and brought people back. The CP is now doing better than it was before PSR. That has actually been confirmed through the national news outlets. What the UP is doing is the same that CP did, but has added their own twist. Any of you or all of you are welcome to disagree with what I've said. I'd invite you to research the CP and CSX business models/numbers before, during, and after PSR. PSR was designed to maximize shareholder profit by lowering the operating ratio. The ONLY way to lower it is to reduce assets. The UP is a big company, and will hit the bottom a whole lot harder. I encourage all the UP brothers and sisters, along with the other railroad brethren to just relax and wait. I pray for all of you that have been affected by this. With PSR, nobody wins except the shareholders. Stay strong people

Bumped from @YWTAW6I-1vvu for being on point.

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I’m not much for Gov’t control of anything but i agree with you on this.

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Post ID: @vfs+YXAs0HT

Uh I hate to be the thorn in your side here, but the outsourcing work myth is not a myth! I'm there! I would recommend you go take a look for yourself.

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Post ID: @cpv+YXAs0HT

Most people, railroad or otherwise, are myopic. The lower they are on the ladder, the more myopic they are likely to be. That's in reply to the guy above talking about MOPs while the house is burning to the ground.

UP, like all the other railroads, will over cut, break the railroad, and then hire back just a smidgen after it hits rock bottom. That's all CP, CN, and CSX have done. They demolished their railroads, and then pulled back 1/8". For all of these organizations, the long term outlook is unknown because the damage done to their in house expertise is massive, and it will take many years to really tell the damage.

That being said, here are some myths and food for thought:

  1. UP is saving money by outsourcing work. That is a myth. The external companies popping up have a profit margin, are not directed by UP, and also have to pay fairly high wages along with benefits. They may pay their employees less than UP, but the overall cost to UP for employing these companies is higher than simply hiring someone in house based on the profit margin alone.

The multi-millionaire hedge funds behind the board don't know, or don't care, because they categorize these costs as capital expenses, which lowers their tax bill and does not count towards the operating ratio. In-house employees, on the other hand, hit the OR.

They will pump and dump. They pump by laying you off, talking up the operating ratio, boosting it, raising the stock price, and then selling for profit after a year.

When you have hundreds of millions to invest, a 10% boost in the stock value could mean tens of millions of dollars in capital gains. Oh, and those gains are taxed at a much lower rate than your working wages...something like 15%.

  1. All the railroads in North America will get away with it because they operate as duopolies, and for many of their customers, de-facto monopolies. Diesel is expensive, truck drivers are scarce, and we've built all the railroad corridors that there are to build, i.e. we cannot really acquire new corridors of land.

Even if UP decided to take a giant turd on itself, many of its customers, especially those moving heavy bulk commodities, have nowhere else to go. This is even more so in Canada, where the distances are longer, the highways more scarce...a perfect country for north-american style private railroads.

  1. Long term, we, the workers (management or otherwise...railroad is so da** focused on management versus non-management ridiculousness, it's like being in 1880...but anyway) and the country will lose.

In most countries, railroads, like highways are government owned. So they can do things like build a commuter railroad system alongside freight tracks in a busy city with no issues. Or enhance a line because strategically, it will attract business in the future, even though right now, it may seem lackluster.

Not to mention, since land is the most important asset of the railroads, these countries can easily build high speed corridors in the existing right of way, or make that right of way a little bigger then build a new line.

Here in our country, UPRR actively undermines the high speed rail line in California and takes years (that's a fact) to even approve a highway overpass. By the way, UP fired all of the people that used to review other entities' plans to cross our tracks and is now happily paying even more to slower consultants to do that.

While the Chinese have built the world's longest high speed rail network in the last 10 years, and literally moved mountains to upgrade their freight network we can't even build Brazos Yard. Just think about this one example. The People's Republic of China built a line thousands of miles long all the way to Tibet, with long term strategic thinking in mind...and we can't even build one new hump yard in Texas. A hump yard which is a drop in the bucket compared to the stuff being built overseas, and we can't even build that...

Our system is a joke folks...and the joke is on us.

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Post ID: @npk+YXAs0HT

Not sure what its called but nice to see MOPs having to finally work.

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