Thread regarding Oracle Corp. layoffs

oracle doesnt even have instructions for running its own "stuff" on its own cloud. oci "classic" had more oracle stuff on its crummy marketplace than oci next gen cloud has now. sad.

does buying oracle puts count as Oracle product?

1. I helped a hotel client to move the PMS system (Opera, acquired by Oracle from Micros) to hospitality cloud. When it was on-premise, it never went down other than planned maintenance; after moving to the cloud, it have gone down 20+ times within the first 6 months. During the week of OpenWorld last year, it went down every morning for 2+ hours.

2. I helped another client look into building an IoT solution. It seemed obvious to go with Oracle IoT cloud because they are already on Oracle stack (on-premise software). It took me over an hour to spin up an instance (a total of 4 Java/DB servers) for IoT. I then switch to AWS IoT, no setup needed, ready to go from the first minute.

nope

If I post here will they audit me? Audit. Oracle Customers and Scientology have something in common.

OMC is the best monitoring platform for enterprise. Just need to point at your WLS servers, and we can provide complete monitoring. Competition requires you to write complex code where OMC can easily get the metrics from the JVM. Best product ever, so sad people were laid off in our team. Our VP was asked to do the layoff and he had dignity, he resigned. I would work for him again any day

As an ex-customer tired of being threatened by sales teams and lawyers alike, I'd rather run my database in a CSV file.

I'm an Oracle employee, but I am not out in the field so I can't speak from personal experience about using the cloud. But my impression, based on gossip and what I read in the trades, is that the Oracle cloud is equivalent to the Opera browser--if Opera weren't owned by a universally detested company like Uber. Opera is functional, it has pros and cons, but it will never be widely adopted. Why use it, when there is Firefox and Chrome?

Posting this for historical purposes: Reaction Score -36

Posted about an hour ago by Anonymous | 329 views | 40 reactions (+2/-38) | 17 replies

Here is my two cents on this.

(-) indicate that I would not buy it or recommend it.

(+) is oposite of (-)

(neutral) means that I perceive it as a wash between (+) and (-)

(no experience) means that I cannot provide any opinion on the item

Feel free to trash it or recomfir it, it's just my humble opinion (been around for 20+ years though)

Data Management (-)

• Autonomous Transaction Processing (-)

• Autonomous Data Warehouse (-)

• Database (+)

• NoSQL (neutral)

• Big Data (-)

• Big Data Cloud (-)

• MySQL (+)

• Database Backup (+)

• Event Hub (-)

Application Development (-)

• Java (+)

• Mobile Hub (-)

• Digital Assistant (-)

• Blockchain Platform (no experience)

• Data Science Cloud (no experience)

• Application Container (-)

• Container Pipelines (-)

• Developer (neutral)

• Visual Builder (neutral)

• API Catalog (-)

• Messaging (+)

Integration (-)

• Integration (-)

• Data Integration (-)

• Data Integration Platform (-)

• Internet of Things (no experience)

• API Platform (-)

• Self-Service Integration (-)

• Process Automation (no experience)

• SOA (neutral)

Management (no experience)

• Application Performance Monitoring (neutral)

• Infrastructure Monitoring (no experience)

• Log Analytics (no experience)

• Orchestration (no experience)

• IT Analytics (no experience)

Content and Experience (neutral)

• Content and Experience (neutral)

• WebCenter Portal Cloud (neutral)

• DIVA Cloud (neutral)

Business Analytics (+)

• Analytics Cloud (+)

• Business Intelligence (+)

• Data Visualization (+)

• Essbase (neutral, leaning -)

Security (no experience)

• CASB (no experience)

• Identity (no experience)

• Configuration and Compliance (no experience)

• Security Monitoring and Analytics (no experience)

If I was a customer I would only call Oracle to squeeze balls on pricing hard and then float that to others where I can actually run the things I need to run on the cloud.

I really like having multiple dashboards when using this - so nice. I like having to put user accounts in multiple times. I like how long it takes databases services to start. I like how it takes an act of congress to get on an Exa - so cloudy! I love being told all the things I can do on premise cant be done on the service now and it costs more! I also love the slow frequency of all the processors available! If its all slow no jitter. My favorite part is how the service versions of database not only cost more but are incoherent - VM can scale storage but not CPU, Hardware DB can scale CPU but cant add block storage. RAC is VM only and roads point to the non cloud Exa service or the unusable autonomous stuff. My favorite part is MySQL is totally ignored. I most enjoy the old guard of RDBMS from the 1980s making software from the 1980s cloudy. Best of all is having VM for compute nodes in Exa - great stuff. Breaks enough of the tooling to make it as painful as possible.

Focus should have been to get the services products out faster, with so many engineers! instead they wasted time doing rigorous code reviews etc, mocking junior engineers and working on legacy buggy software and Tools,and now layoffs? had they really had good products and practices, they could have moved these engineers to those products...Did they? I think engineers and the higher ups should get an account and check out where AWS is , so that they understand the difference between Heaven and Hell! ( AWS vs c-appy old oracle cloud )

OCI has great benefits, I will give them that. Many time saving features because you do not require hands on. However, a single spin up takes 5 times longer than AWS, and more people know AWS.

No, the issue is Oracle is too late in the game .. where as AWS has already bagged the 1st position.

I know loads of customers using AWS, and moving away from the Damn Oracle DB to use AWS managed DBs liek Aurora etc. AWS Engineers already have the managed services and products ready which Oracle and others are dreaming and talking about.. They can think 10000x faster and better than the old school Oracle Engineers. Oracle is a dead animal...

A question for poster @reo

You said, "mobile cloud" = joke service

What makes you feel that way?

I am on the team, deep in the trenches, and I am really curious to hear why all this negative perception surrounds the service

Thank you!

Autonomous Transaction Processing Cloud Service has a rock solid architecture. The product has issues right now, but I see us getting where we need to be in a couple of years. Now, with layoffs and everything else, things are changing, not sure now....

exacs is decent, no much experience with other stuff. i would not pay for it tho

Folks, please use arrows - we have more comments than votes. Comments are awesome, but please do arrows as well as it does counting

The only one I used (directly, hands on) was the Integration Cloud - I'd have a very difficult time recommending it to anyone. I would not buy it for myself, there is a plenty cheaper and more stable options out there.

None. Even if it worked and worked well, no. Why? Who wants the exorbitant and substandard customer service and support? Who wants to be audited and then have your licenses held for ransom? I'd rather get money from Lenny the Loanshark.

atp - junk, forced into cohabitation , no choice of db version, no parameter tuning

adw - junk, forced into cohabitation , no choice of db version, no parameter tuning

have you tried setting it up/using it?

atp - junk, forced into cohabitation , no choice of db version, no parameter tuning

adw - junk, forced into cohabitation , no choice of db version, no parameter tuning

analytics cloud - cant even tell what that is - ginger kid

integration cloud - i could consider this ok

mobile cloud - pfft, joke service

jcs - horrible 'paas' more like pass. nightmare security issues its more like orchestrated security flaw footprint deployment tool

omc - just fired everyone in there

exacs - how to pay more than your exadata and get less features and more restrictions and support telling you you cant do (list of thousands of things) you can do on premiise.

LOL

Minus Eight in Six minutes on Forty Views... OMG

↑ ADW

↑ ATP

↑ Analytics Cloud

↑ Integration Cloud

↑ API Platform

↑ Mobile Cloud / Digital Assistant

↑ JCS

↑ OMC

↑ Exadata Cloud Service

to name a few

I kind of know how this poll is going to score