Osmose now doing all pole inspections. Asurion handling all 5G home installations. And the mighty CWA says, thanks for the money you dues paying CHUMPS!
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@paa, when you’re not making life-changing financial decisions based upon blogs written by a self-appointed Life Transformationalist peddling her Investor Education Retreats, where do you get the rest your hard hitting news? The Enquirer?
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C O T ‘s , what a bunch of j--koffs ! Just sayin
@2hsz, did you elicit the support you needed from your brothers on the outside or were you one of the obstructionists who made enemies? Did you make your own bed, and then cry when the expected reaction occurred from those who had once been willing to be your brother?
BTW, all work’s going away. The CO hasn’t cornered the market on that. But I do think they hastened their own demise through their actions (or inaction).
Not saying that this was by any means universal but, in my time (and in my area), some, many, C.O. people could be their own worst enemy, and were abusive and very disrespectful to outside craft. Therefore, IMHO, there was little pity when they got their come-uppance, as they rarely had my back, and needlessly, cruelly made life a living hell at times for anyone who had the misfortune of having to rely on or deal with them for something.
Some ran their C.O.s as little obstructionist fiefdoms, while the rest of us were trying to take care of the customer, and were trying our damndest to get outselves out of inclement weather at times, while left needlessly and cruelly on hold and at their whim.
They made their bed, and then xpected those who suffered at their hand, to rally around their cause.
Sorry, but no.
Who cares. August 2023 I will have everything I need to retire in Florida, somewhere remote where 5G can't cook my insides.
glad Im out in a few. They have been giving away the central office work for years. Union did nothing.At this point I dont care. Vendors can have it all. F>U> VZ !!!
The pole rot inspection (tag and plug) work done by Osmose has never been our bargained work. The Osmose people gypsy about the country on a per pole piece meal contract for all of the various operating companies and power utilities. They pay sh#t too because it is non union. There is nothing new about this. Pole placement, removal and cable attachment has always been part of our bargained for pole work.
Retiring with this contract and going with annuity
I’m retiring with this contract. So far I’m leaning toward the lump sum, but I will see what the rates are when the time comes. The monthly pension option is an attractive choice, too.
“If I’m happily retired in that dark future you’re peddling, is it my work? Seems the answer’s no so, even if that nonsense were true, what’s your point troll?” ixe
Thanks “Brother”. Thanks for spelling out how you feel about your younger brothers and sisters who have tied the line right along with you.
@1eh: I am one of those people you referenced in your post and I have been here a long time ,30 years , and leaving at the end of contract.i don’t wish financial ruin on anybody , but don’t be blind thinking VZ isn’t going the contractor direction. If you are in financial ruin , that’s on you
@sas, when suffering such a devastating intellectual pummeling at the hands of those dumb union guys you so disdain, is that the best you can do, label us “old farts” and attach a fear that does not belong to us?
Our pensions, like your career, are not going anywhere.
Why not leave the room to the adults, and retake your seat at the kiddie table. Maybe they’ll believ you.
Hahaha...look at all the triggered union old farts: BUT MEH PENSION!!
Look over your shoulder till your dying day because your pension may go away!
“Most of your future work is being contracted out.” @1fm
If I’m happily retired in that dark future you’re peddling, is it my work? Seems the answer’s no so, even if that nonsense were true, what’s your point troll?
Your OP, this quoted post, and your other fearongering, as well as the cherrypicking of reference (a salesperson’s blog - HAHA) within this thread, and others , is transparent and is easily shot down with even the slightest application of logic, reality, wisdom and a view towards past practice and precedent.
Give it up already youngblood, you’re wasting your time. No one’s buying it.
@paa, I would agree that that lady’s blog that you posted could be viewed as frightening hyperbole. However, it’s important to consider the source, to see if there might or might not be an agenda, hidden or otherwise.
I found it interesting that, should you scroll below the end of the article, it reads, “...Attend Natalie Pace’s next life transformational Investor Education Retreat to protect what you have, earn money while you sleep...”
If you want to sell a product, make the potential buyer see a need. Fear is one of the most powerful of motivators. @paa, I got a bomb shelter to sell you - Never Used.
@paa, relax, 84% of retirees get their full pension after bankruptcy. The sky’s not falling.
@paa Read it closer. The pension is funded at over 85%. It's the OBEB that is underfunded. Post employment health care, etc.
I do not think it is too unusual to have a pension fund that periodically temporarily falls below full-funding levels, and then adjustments are then made to more fully fund it.
After reading Natalie’s blog in the link you provided, one take away was that people were living longer, which adds uncertainty to pension obligations.
Uncertainty is probably the one thing big business hates most.
There are occassionally rumors, ones I never believed, that the lump sum option might be taken off the table. However, with people living longer, isn’t it more likely some businesses would want to take the annuity option off the table instead? That would guarantee certainty.
Secure pension my a$$!
https://www.nataliepace.com/blog/pensions-in-peril-verizon-att-top-the-underfunded-opebs-list
It could be that another entity is working inside the home to provide phone, internet, and video in only those areas that are not covered by in- house union-represented associates.
The labor contracts the associates currently have has provisions regarding “new businesses”. The question then is, is this a “new business” allowing non-represented people to do exclusively, or is bringing phone, internet, and video service to a home something that union-represented people have traditionally done, is it traditional phone work?
When the means of delivering those services migrated from copper to fiber, it remained in-house so, migrating to a new means of delivery may not be deemed all that different.
It may be a moot point if any new equipment inside the home is just mailed without any tech involvement (like roof-top TV antennae of old). However, there will always likely be some need for troubleshooting.
It also may be a moot point if so many techs leave, that there’s few left behind. Then those few installation and repair techs still here might do the work and be supplemented by contractors.
I don’t see linemen or splicers affected by this, other than fiber’s terminating at fewer poles.
It will be interesting to see if a good pension incentive is put on the table. It would make sense in some ways. I could see this all evolving in a favorable way for all parties involved.
I’m not sure why the OP (or @1fm - same person?) is relishing in his belief that people who have worked hard and dedicated their careers to making this enterprise a success should face financial ruin at the end of that dedicated service.
@ahc : and most of your future work is being contracted out
I'm a dues-paying chump that has a secure pension and job security until 2023.
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