This isn’t a post designed to rub the salt into the wound of the ones that we let go. On the contrary, my heart goes out to them. My point is that the situation at the company has come to the point where the people that managed to avoid the layoffs are now stuck in an environment where nothing is certain and where they go to work with the knowledge that tomorrow it could be them on the chopping board. They say the true punishment of the death penalty is, in fact, waiting a long time, knowing it will be ultimately caried out. Feel pretty much the same way.
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@1ixs probably make vehicles more cost effectively. Of course headcount reductions won't happen as frequently at that point because the workforce will be dying off on their own.
If all the young people leave, how will we ever come up with a new 30 under 30 class??? What would we doooooooo???
I'm a young person and I left. I encourage all others to do the same.
Ford leadership is high to believe they will ever compete in AV.
To the young employee there are tons of great jobs in your area. The only Ford people I know are parents of friends who’ve retired. I’d leave and find a new job - there are tons. No idea why any young person would consider Ford anymore. It’s been in decline for decades, offers horrible insurance benefits, no pensions like they did in the past. All the fun work has been outsourced to suppliers. Most areas have nothing to do with cars from IT to Finance. Start your own business !
I think it could probably be a little better at a small to mid sized company. Yes all large companies are the same situation, but smaller companies could offer various benefits. More personal, less micromanaging, less bureaucracy, more adaptable etc.
I admit that the specific way this has been dragged out at Ford has been particularly awful. But still I think that anyone who thinks that just moving to a different company will solve all of their problems is fooling themselves and missing the very important big picture. This is what our economy is now. Employees no longer matter to companies, only profits. And until we all band together and say that we're not going to take it any more, it's only going to get worse.
But people seem to have this delusion that if they just hop over to another company, they'll be fine. That's just not the case.
This fight is not going to be won on individual terms by one person jumping around to different companies until they find that one company that will actually treat them like a human being, because that type of company is becoming more and more scarce. This is a fight that has to be fought collectively by all employees together. We seem to have lost the concept of doing this in the US. The American economy has become rotten to the core and any sense of good wages, benefits, and job security for the working class has gone out the window.
As a young employee. I really have no motivation to stay here now. This whole thing really has soured me on the idea of being here long term. I can no longer even recommend working here to anyone. Unfortunately for me my family doesn't want to leave Detroit and there aren't very many non-automotive companies in the area.
@cwy I think most of us understand that layoffs are part of business. It is the manner in which they are done that sours people. Ford has wasted well over 6 months of productivity and caused tremendous ill will. The mini pulse survey delivered a resounding verdict on Ford senior leadership. Boy howdy we surely did bury those stats and results though
I survived the 1998, 2003, and 2008 reductions. 2008 was the worst. When it was done, more than half of PDC was dark and you may not see anyone in the halls when walking between locations in PDC. Those left behind (still had Ford jobs) had huge survivor guilt. Hours were brutal but new products needed to be developed and customers were choosing Fords because we didn’t take the bailout from the government. That customer good will made it bare able while were worked to save Ford. Allan was inspirational. Today, that customer good will is gone. I’m not sure what will motivate this RIF’s survivors. I hope there will be something the workforce can rally around.
Ford has had layoffs before...we moved on. This isn't a new phenomenon, as much as some posters seem to want to paint it. It will s--- for some, but that's the way it is in business these days.
@jvt, I've said it elsewhere on here, but if you think that mentality is limited to just Ford, or even particularly bad at Ford, you need to look at the broader picture. Guess what, no company cares about any employee any more. Everyone working for every company is just a commodity. I just have to shake my head at anyone thinking it's going to be radically different or better at any other company. What about the last 20 years or so of the American economy has given you any indication that companies care about anything other than profit margins and share price? Wake up, and once you do, realize that the whole makeup and the direction of where our economy is headed needs to drastically change or the vast majority of people in this country will only continue to struggle more and more financially.
https://www.cnbc.com/2019/05/10/62-percent-of-millennials-say-they-are-living-paycheck-to-paycheck.html
This will become an annual SRD
You assume you are safe...
To Z2kP7 - your implied view just reinforces what the poster was implying. The culture within the company will be brutal, with every employee just viewed as a commodity.
You can always quit.