Thread regarding Verizon Communications Inc. layoffs

What about the bitter, evil non union folks, they are still there, they got rid of the good people.

Wireline has evolved, it’s not going anywhere, sorry to those that want to see verizon sell it off to make you happy

They riff'd the employees that were pro union, and the ones that were left were too ignorant to understand job protection. Believe me if they would of allowed non techs to join the union, we would have whole heartingly....but they riff'd us in full force....it was always about the network...not the employees...there was a timetable for regular layoffs...it was all planned, before, during and after the acquisition.

XO was bought for fiber, yes, but I think more for the extensive mm wave holdings they had. I think it was the 39 GHz spectrum, IIRC. That's what is giving VZ the 5G edge going forward, whatever 5G edge that they might have.

A former RF engineer and 12/28'er

X..oh marks the spot. The XO employees should of joined the unions the dumb schills all got the $hit can when Verlieson moved in and took the technologies and kicked the employees to the curbs like always. Should have become the brothers and sisters and paid the dues.

LOL!!! What and adorably optimistic post.

Yes, and that's why VZ bought XO, the wireline fiber network assets and wireless spectrums. How do you think they are going to make 5G work...this capacity.....in the launch city markets....old legacy XO.

Keep telling yourself that!

For the record, all of the wireless growth is requiring new fiber plant to be built (in VZ and non VZ areas). Wireline's need to build new plant seems to indicate that there is not enough capacity currently available to meet the wireless demand, let alone other customers!

@Z2xknbs-utb

it's cheaper to lease/rent than to own in those flyover/hillbilly states.

VZ does not want the headaches of dealing with regulated POTS, unions, low passings per mile

@ckc, I agree with you, maybe it is time to buy back C, T & F, and at a basement-bargain price. Seems there was already a 10-year sublease we had in place with those states after the sale that also allowed us access to their additional reserve capacity for future use. Do we have similar agreements with the other 28 or so states that were once in-house? Seeing as 5G is going to have near insatiable fiber needs, it might be nice to once again have the indisputable controlling interest over the landline facilities in Idaho, Maine, Vermont, Oregon, Ohio, Arizona, West Virginia, Illinois, Michigan, New Hampshire, Nevada, Indiana, Ohio, Washington, Wisconsin, North and South Carolina IMO.

If my business is arranging fruit baskets, I wouldn’t mind owning the source of supply, a number of fruit farms, particularly when operating fruit farms is already a skill that I possess and excel at.

Montgomery Burns made a similar re-acquisition, regaining the controlling interest in the SNPP after having sold it off.

Then go back to the "wireless board"

We are tired of hearing about slamming HUMS!!!

@Z2xknbs-ckc, California, Texas, Florida are not well clustered as the current Virginia to Massachusetts region. VZ had tiny footprints in each of those 3 states that were non-strategic (formerly GTE garbage) compared to the footprints in the valuable Northeast states.

Florida-Tampa area

California-parts of LA

Texas: suburbs of Dallas

Signed, non union employee

BS. Why sell off California, Texas and Florida then? Why only have wireline in a few states of the country instead of national? Why let the copper disintegrate to dust?

How many people does the CWA pay to post on here? I'm getting tired of the union propaganda posts.

Actually, I think the correct answer here is spectrum.

1) VZ has paid like $90 billion dollars over the years for their wireless spectrum, IIRC. I think that's worth more than the installed value of VZT and VZB fiber. I could be wrong about that though. I would be interested if anyone has a number for that.

2) VZ runs lots of wireless service over non-VZ fiber. They lease it from all kinds of large and small companies. Sometimes they get companies to install fiber just for VZW and then VZW takes over management of it completely (dark fiber). In fairness, there are other wireless companies using VZT fiber in the Northeast.

A former RF engineer and 12/28'er

We shoud sell it to to google or amazon. They are literally knocking at our door. Sell high

And their high salary , pensioned employees isn’t .