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Huge Multiphase Global layoffs are coming... we just don't know when

The latest 10-K for FY2019 did not include any advanced notice of money set aside for restructuring primarily due to employee severance packages. This was by design, we have no idea how large will be. Rumor is Oracle will shrink from 140k to less than 100k employees globally.

The points below should make it clear that huge multiphase Global layoffs will be in progress this year. The organization headed by MH is to be culled to bare bones, milking support and staying ahead of costs through employee consolidation and reduction in force. The Organization headed by RG is the one that will be invested in. This goes with a very simple philosophy it is easier to turn a small speed boat than a large aircraft carrier.

https://www.businessinsider.com/larry-ellison-explains-oracle-ongoing-restructuring-2019-6

Larry Ellison explains Oracle's restructuring and layoffs: Some of our business units are 'melting away' and 'we just don't care' Oracle has been conducting rolling layoffs worldwide since March, impacting all sorts of units, including its all-important cloud divisions.

On Wednesday, Oracle founder, chairman and CTO Larry Ellison gave some insight into what's going on, saying that some of Oracle's businesses "are melting away and we just don't care. We are focused on our star products and our star products are now driving our top line higher."

He said shrinking businesses included some old-school, on premises software products. That seems obvious as Oracle is now pushing its customers to buy the cloud versions of many of its products.

But Ellison also threw Oracle's Data Cloud business into the "shrinking, we-don't-care" bucket blaming the unit's problems on "all the privacy issues," he said.

Data Cloud was formed through a series of acquisitions of online advertising data companies like BlueKai, Datalogix, and Moat. Oracle spent about $3 billion on six key acquisitions for the unit, Ad Exchanger reports.

A spokesperson tells Business Insider, "Every year Oracle hires tens of thousands of employees and we are currently hiring globally and in every line of business, including OCI Gen2. Enabling our customers' success has always been a top priority for Oracle. We are laser-focused on delivering the best cloud products that drive efficiencies, fuel innovation and impact the bottom line for our customers around the world."

This means you are either in the growth organization or you are on your way out.

Evidence more layoffs are coming

**1. Executive departures and demotions in the past 9 months. They were aware of the massive reorg coming this week. They were not on board with the direction the company is taking.

TK: President of product development (13 years)

PA: Vice President Product Management - Oracle Database (22 years)

HD: Senior Vice President, North America Technology Solution Engineering and Cloud Customer Success (19 years)

MS from Sun is an individual contributor now, he was SVP of Microelectronics (Chief Information Officer and Senior Vice President, Oracle).

AZ ... and the list goes on... a few more departed in the past two weeks.

TK wanted Oracle to make more of its software available to run on public clouds from chief rivals Amazon.com Inc. and Microsoft Corp. as a way to diversify from its own struggling infrastructure, a view opposed by Ellison.

Source: https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-09-12/oracle-s-kurian-is-said-to-take-leave-amid-discord-with-ellison

The key here is a recognition of a failing cloud strategy by executives and an open acknowledgement of a lack of both growth and investment in Oracle traditional business. The executives are leaving after decades of service in droves because they can not see any sort of future for Oracle.

**2. March 21 2019: Oracle shuts down its Advertising and Marketing group.

Early in the day, our world-class in-house brand creative team was dissolved.

After more than a decade of building and growing a multidisciplinary brand and creative team with operations in Silicon Valley, SF, LA, NY, TX, Portland, and India, a MANDATORY Organization Announcement conference call delivered the dire news.

The shock was sudden, and disorienting. The initial numbness gave way to questions that couldn't be answered, for doing so is not part of standard corporate protocols for processes like this. Instead team members comforted each other. We helped each other to ready for the end of our last day at Oracle, to alert our colleagues, friends, and business partners, our agencies, and vendors—to minimize any disruption for them, while ours was full blown.

https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/creative-we-stand-francisco-g-delgadillo/

Shutting down marketing and advertising is a strong signal Oracle is no longer pursuing a growth strategy for its mainstream products.

**3. Oracle shutters R&D center in China.

Director of Oracle human resources for the Asia-Pacific region makes the following announcement:

Per orders from the U.S. headquarters, Oracle is planning to make some major changes to optimize its business structure, which will inevitably result in huge multi-phase staff reductions globally."

U.S. computer technology giant Oracle is shuttering its entire Research and Development Center in China (CDC). More than 900 employees have been laid off, and the second round of job cuts is expected to happen in July.

According to several Chinese media reports, the layoff notice was made in an all-hands meeting on Tuesday. In the meeting, the company’s head of human resources for the Asia-Pacific region announced that per orders from the U.S. headquarters, Oracle was planning to make some major changes to optimize its business structure, which would inevitably result in huge multi-phase staff reductions globally. Following the brief statement were private layoff conversations inside the Beijing branch of the center, where about 500 employees were informed of their loss of jobs.

https://supchina.com/2019/05/09/oracle-to-lay-off-1600-staff-in-china/

**4. MH, the Oracle CEO is a numbers guy. He uses cost cutting as his strategy.

2010 Article: Why Mark Hurd is a Bad Match for Oracle

At both NCR (where Hurd was before HP) and HP, he cut expenses to extremes while working to increase his own income. This gets the financials in line and few acquiring companies look at morale as a unique problem and anticipate it in any case. Once the sale is done, the Hurd-like executive moves on to the next project and the lack of employee loyalty becomes someone else’s problem to solve. It is one of the most lucrative types of jobs in the industry but it takes a relatively heartless person to do it because of the adverse impact on employees.

NCR had been sold previously, and the result for the old AT&T was so bad that the acquisition was reversed. This means it would be difficult to sell again. And while it seemed likely that Dell at one point would buy them, that never happened.

HP wasn’t looking to be packaged for sale but Hurd packaged them anyway. He made the firm vastly more valuable to a buyer but stripped out much of HP’s R&D and employee loyalty to get it there. In effect to gain short-term advantages, which is consistent with a sale strategy, Hurd traded off long-term success. This showcased Hurd, after the fact, to be the wrong guy for a CEO job at a company that wasn’t planning to be sold.

source https://www.datamation.com/columns/article.php/3902836/Why-Mark-Hurd-is-a-Bad-Match-for-Oracle.htm

If you want to be successful predicting the future take a good look at the past. MH has a strategy. It's the same strategy he has employed his whole career, he makes cuts to cost centers to keep profits up. MH laid off 25,000 people at HP, he has laid off over 23,000 people at Oracle since 2016, and that’s when things were good and revenue was growing.

MH was hand picked by Larry Ellison for this express purpose. He is now in charge of melting away everything under his organization. Good luck everyone. If there ever was a clear way of communicating it is time to find another job it has been communicated in thought word and deed by Oracle’s highest ranking officials.

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-3wgh is correct.

Some of these people have lousy reputations already. Many of us in “group A” avoid internal listings just based on who the hiring manager is. Polite pass.

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“Group B: new guns. Modern skillsets; different mindset. Moves from job to job, project to project.”

I would rather put it this way.

Group B. PIP’ed AWS and laid off MS employees, lead by laid off AWS engineer who couldn’t get a job for an Year

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Post ID: @3wgh+ZKyhcdT

I don't know about all these cuts that are happening, and the talk of dropping to 100k employees. Rather, the number of employees appears to be going up.

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Post ID: @2dnv+ZKyhcdT

Multiple rumors on September. But its obvious that MH is the "melt away man." Congrats for all of you still working on melt away technology that Oracle doesn't care about. Just hang in that litteral dead end job with no raises until you get cut. Good strategy if you use that time to learn new technologies and begin interviewing.

If you stay on dead technology in a melt away job with out a plan then you are only hurting yourself.

Get out! Get out! Get out!

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Post ID: @2rjo+ZKyhcdT

There are no CSMs left to get rid of at this point

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Post ID: @2mea+ZKyhcdT

Any insight as to when is the disvestment to Micro Focus and what products they would offload?

Why don't you just make something up? It seems to be par for the course on this page.

Let's see ... Fusion Apps on September 12? Wheee! This is easy.

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Post ID: @2nki+ZKyhcdT

Deep cuts coming in Support but also the CSM org in September. CSM across all products will be RIfed

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Post ID: @2cak+ZKyhcdT

Any insight as to when is the disvestment to Micro Focus and what products they would offload?

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Post ID: @1cgf+ZKyhcdT

Not gonna help them make revenue goals, but agree they will have to reduce costs more than last year, so definitely more layoffs in this FY

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Post ID: @1xxp+ZKyhcdT

I suspect there will be more layoffs in the coming year than in the last year. Oracle can't buy back stock at the same rate as last year..... so something has to happen to make revenue goals. There have to be layoffs coming up, and I think they will have to be at a greater rate than last year at least.

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Post ID: @1efh+ZKyhcdT

The 23,000 doesn’t include China and Dyn and Ravello

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Post ID: @1por+ZKyhcdT

amen bro

Awesome post

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Post ID: @1tmr+ZKyhcdT

No tinfoil hat.. its real and its happening now...

https://searchcloudcomputing.techtarget.com/news/252465732/Oracle-layoffs-hit-Dyn-teams-sales-marketing-staffs

MANCHESTER, N.H. — Employees of Oracle + Dyn in Manchester have been laid off, workers said Tuesday. The company has been conducting rolling layoffs worldwide, but it would not confirm how many employees were laid off in Manchester.

Mayor Joyce Craig said Oracle's decision to lay off employees so soon after expressing a desire to stay in Manchester is upsetting and disappointing.

https://www.wmur.com/article/oracle-lays-off-employees-in-manchester/28187014

Don Fluckinger Senior News Writer 25 Jun 2019

Oracle lays off employees in Manchester, Layoffs part of worldwide cuts in workforce

Oracle layoffs hit Dyn team's sales, marketing staffs, Oracle Dyn cuts sales and marketing jobs as Oracle plans to end some Dyn services in 2020. The layoffs come amid other Oracle downsizing as the vendor moves toward the cloud.

Oracle laid off the sales and marketing staffs at its Dyn unit, a formerly independent DNS services provider it acquired in 2016 for $600 million. Dyn users are seeing "EOL" or end-of-life notices for products, and Oracle Dyn's landlord put its Manchester, N.H. offices up for lease, leading some to speculate whether more Oracle layoffs are to come.

The layoffs were confirmed by sources with knowledge of the moves, though Oracle declined to comment or provide any specifics. "As our cloud business grows, we will continually balance our resources and restructure our development group to help ensure we have the right people delivering the best cloud products to our customers around the world," a spokesperson said in a statement.

The Oracle layoffs come after two reported earlier rounds of layoffs at the Dyn unit, and other recent downsizing moves by the global software giant, which has about 138,000 employees around the world.

Laid-off employees at the domain name system division told the Manchester Union-Leader that the Oracle layoffs numbered several dozen employees. While the newspaper also reported that the 100,000-square-foot office was put on the market for new lessors, Oracle responded via email that it is currently negotiating to extend that lease.

Free DynDNS, other products sunsetting

Meanwhile, on Twitter, users posted and commented about EOL notices posted on Oracle's account pages for Free DynDNS as well as enterprise-grade Dyn TLD (top-level domain) services that resolve customers' traffic to dynamic, or changing, IP addresses. The services are set to end on May 31, 2020 according to notifications customers reportedly received, and customers were offered paid Oracle Cloud Infrastructure alternatives in their place.

https://www.businessinsider.com/larry-ellison-explains-oracle-ongoing-restructuring-2019-6

Larry Ellison explains Oracle's restructuring and layoffs: Some of our business units are 'melting away' and 'we just don't care'

Julie Bort Jun 22, 2019, 10:00 AM

Larry Ellison

Larry Ellison, Oracle CTO and executive chairman.Kimberly White/Getty Images

Oracle has been conducting rolling layoffs worldwide since March, impacting all sorts of units, including its all-important cloud divisions.

On Wednesday, Oracle founder, chairman and CTO Larry Ellison gave some insight into what's going on.

Some business units are not doing well and Oracle is content to let them whither, he explained.

Other units are growing fast and they are the company's future.

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Oracle has been conducting rolling layoffs worldwide since March, impacting all sorts of business units within the company, including its all-important cloud divisions. While the company has publicly acknowledged the layoffs, management hasn't discussed details like how many jobs will be cut or when the restructuring will end.

Oracle may not have an end date in mind at all. The company has engaged in ongoing layoffs since at least 2013.

Still, on Wednesday, after Oracle reported its fiscal 2019 Q4 earnings, founder, chairman and CTO Larry Ellison gave some insight into what's going on, saying that some of Oracle's businesses "are melting away and we just don't care. We are focused on our star products and our star products are now driving our top line higher."

He said shrinking businesses included some old-school, on premises software products. That seems obvious as Oracle is now pushing its customers to buy the cloud versions of many of its products.

Read: Larry Ellison is cautiously optimistic that Oracle's new cloud database will succeed, even though it doesn't have many customers yet

He also cited Oracle's ever-shrinking hardware business, the result of its $7.2 billion acquisition of Sun back in 2010. Oracle's hardware business has been declining almost since Oracle closed the deal, and some of the hardware businesses shrunk another 25% in the latest quarter, one of Oracle's co-CEOs, Mark Hurd, said on Wednesday during that same analysts call. Hardware declined 11% overall in the quarter.

Oracle has been laying off people from that unit for years. In 2017, it reportedly laid off about 2,500 employees from the old Sun business, ZDNet reported.

But Ellison also threw Oracle's Data Cloud business into the "shrinking, we-don't-care" bucket blaming the unit's problems on "all the privacy issues," he said.

Data Cloud was formed through a series of acquisitions of online advertising data companies like BlueKai, Datalogix, and Moat. Oracle spent about $3 billion on six key acquisitions for the unit, Ad Exchanger reports

By 2017, Oracle was considered one of the power players in the data broker industry, gathering data on consumers and watching their online activity to help brands target digital ads.

Then came the Cambridge Analytica scandal and Europe's GDPR privacy law. Oracle shut down one of its ad tracking products in Europe in March, Ad Exchanger reported.

Ellison explained this week that the growth from several of Oracle's successful products was starting to outpace shrinkage from the who-cares declining units. These outperformers, he said, includes Oracle's own home-grown cloud applications and NetSuite, the cloud software company Oracle bought for $9.3 billion in 2016. (Ellison owned 40% of NetSuite when Oracle bought it, upsetting some Oracle shareholders with the price paid.)

Read: Oracle revoked job offers for some people in the UK, blaming a hiring freeze. Yet it says it's both hiring and still restructuring.

So, while he admitted that Oracle's overall growth has been modest - annual revenues increased 2% - "underneath that, there's really a lot of activity, you have these very, these modern businesses like the autonomous database, Fusion, NetSuite growing very rapidly, taking share," he said.

"So yeah, there are some of our businesses that are not, if you will, hot. But the good news is, the hot businesses are now bigger than the not-so-hot businesses, and that's determining our future," he said.

Despite the layoffs, Oracle says it is hiring globally. A spokesperson tells Business Insider, "Every year Oracle hires tens of thousands of employees and we are currently hiring globally and in every line of business, including OCI Gen2. Enabling our customers' success has always been a top priority for Oracle. We are laser-focused on delivering the best cloud products that drive efficiencies, fuel innovation and impact the bottom line for our customers around the world."

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The latest 10-K for FY2019 did not include any advanced notice of money set aside for restructuring primarily due to employee severance packages. This was by design, we have no idea how large will be.

Talk about moving the goal posts. First is was going to be a m---acre because money was set aside for restructuring. Now it's going to be a m---acre because NO money was set aside for restructuring.

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Post ID: @1ktf+ZKyhcdT

About replacing thousands of Oracle American employees with H1Bs, LE said: "We just Don't care"

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Post ID: @bdz+ZKyhcdT

And tinfoil hat guy chimes in, in 3...2...1...

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Post ID: @gma+ZKyhcdT

Spot on!

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