Thread regarding Union Pacific Corp. layoffs

1. Protect the TWO MAN CREW BILL (HR 1748 Safe Freight Act) It’s about public safety and jobs.
2. Go to SMART-UNION.org/td

Click on the Red button support two person crews on the right side of division home page.

2. Enter contact info ( this is needed to direct the email to your member of congress.
3. Click Send. The pre-drafted my essage will be sent directly to your member of congress.
4. This effects railroad retirement, retired railroaders, current railroaders there’s even a spot for the general public to make there voice be heard. Please take action there is 175,000 conductors and 59,000 engineers that need this support not to mention public safety at risk.
5. safety of the crews and the public must come first!

You have all got this wrong when it come to 2 man crew verses one man
crew. The airlines have had autopilot for years but still have two and 3 people in the c—pit. If Boeing has taught us anything technology fails. It’s all the workers do is worry about losing jobs.  Its common sense thousands of railroad workers will lose their jobs if all the railroads are allowed to go to 1 man crews. That's an issue you need to take up with Politicians !  They claims they are creating jobs then let him do something
about people keeping the ones they have!
This is about safety. This is about saving lives. Not just crew lives
but the American people as well. Don’t forget about the rule-making process that was invoked by then-FRA Administrator Joseph C. Szabo after an unattended 74-car freight train carrying crude oil ran downhill and crashed in the Canadian town of Lac-Mégantic, k–ling 49 people in 2013 that had just one man on the train! Hunter Harrison said on the record those extra set of eyes in the cab are valuable. PTC will not detect track issues
or mechanical issues like bad order cars. Or prevent crossing accidents. So if engineers are busy pushing buttons on a screen and reading train orders his eyes are in the cab. If they remove the
conductor, it would be counterintuitive. So in my opinion one safety system cancels out the other. Now with ptc and full crew in the cab increases the safety of of train movement. Just plain old common sense.
Railroads preach safety every single day.
Its in their rule books and in their advertising. Its 24 hour a day
safety...safety....safety. Well let them put their money where their mouths are. Pay for safety. Keep 2 men in the cab.
Just like GM shutting down 5 plants putting 15,000 people out of work and pay there CEO 22 million. CSX on the other hand lost 41% of the business once Hunter Harrison took over cutting out almost half the work force from 27893 people down to 15,362 people system wide and they paid him 385 million only to pass away 8 months later!
With everything going automated from self check out lanes does anyone profit except share holders and CEOs!!!!
The public has no idea what we deal with. Tell your neighbors about how
many cars we hit and people are k–led every year when they are hit by
trains. Explain to them how the engineer is in the cab calling the dispatcher and getting 911 called. He is taking care of anything that may be wrong with the locomotive. He stays with the train. Tell them how the conductor gets down and rushes to the vehicle to see if he can
possibly save a life. Maybe a baby is in the car and needs to be helped
or maybe the parents can be removed and need CPR. Maybe he can comfort
someone who is dying or in shock or screaming because they are severely
injured . Tell them about how we hit live stock and large deer. Tell them how people love to put junk on the tracks. Shopping carts, bicycles, steel barrows, wheelchairs and even abandoned cars. Tell them about how many trees we hit a year and do extensive damage to the
locomotive. The engineer stays with the locomotives and assess the damage and does what is necessary to radio dispatchers for help while
the conductors gets down and removes debris and check the rest of the
train for any damage or signs of derailment. Tell them about the
territory that is in the middle of TIM BUCK TWO!  The places where no
one can get to you fast unless you have a helicopter. How will they go bathroom now without two people to keep the train going down the tracks unless they have to stop not blocking crossings or take lunch. Tell them how radios don't always work in remote locations. Telemetry drops out and communication is lost. How many times does a conductor have to go back
and trouble shoot another unit after alarms are going off. The engineer
keeps the train rolling the best he can while the conductor checks the
computers and checks to see if it is loading. Tell them about the blind
curves that only one crew member can see around when your approaching
public crossings or trees that block signals so that only one crew
member can see them until you get the train right on top of them. Tell
them about wash outs from floods, and heat warped rail and fog so thick
you cant see a foot in front of you. SO WHAT IF YOU GOT PTC!!  PTC does
not tell you if a car in stopped on the tracks or a tree is across it
or a person is walking in the tracks or there is 5 inches of water over
the rail! Tell them how crew members have been attacked and some have
even been k–led by gang thugs and trespassers. A single man has no
chance in  these situations. It is better to have someone else
with you to keep watch when working in bad areas and ghetto rail yards.
The list goes on and on. Tell them how the company took away the right
of the crew members to take a power nap. One crew member is supposed to
call stopped every 15 minutes while they are waiting on line of road. As
long as someone is awake and doing this and paying attention there is no
reason on god green earth while a tired crew member cant take a 20
minute power nap. Tell them how crews are run into the ground and some
are called out every 10 hours around the clock. They work all hours of
the day and night and most have no weekends off. The company wont even
let them have a power nap. What is going to happen when there is only 1
man on the train by himself and he is just plain worn out or is sick and
afraid to take a day off because of the companies new attendance policy
which is just absolutely insane. People come to work sick all the time.
Vomiting, diarrhea, fevers and the flu doesn't stop them because they
are in fear of losing their jobs. How is a sick man who is all by
himself going to be able to make a full run safely and without risking
his life or the publics when he doesn't have his other crew member to
help keep him alert. The engineer has many roles and duties as well as
the conductor. There are times when something happens that it is a must
for an engineer to be on board and ready to take instructions while the
conductor handles the rest of the responsibilities.  There are so many
things that go into railroading and running trains that the public
doesn't know a thing about. 
THIS ONE MAN CREW IDEA IS THE MOST UNSAFE AND IRRESPONSIBLE IDEA that
has ever been brought forward in the history of the railroad industry. 
And for what? To save a dollar. To line someone's pockets. To make
someone rich. Who care who gets k–led. If you think crossings are blocked now imagine if there was only one man and had to wait on someone to cut a crossing!Who care about the destruction
to family lives. I don't know about you but I sure do and so should every person in America!
Also if you haven’t seen it check out this YouTube video
https://youtu.be/atfY4tiyMz8

‪Railroadworkersunited.org‬

Years ago, railroads tried to force the union to negotiate one man crews. They were ruled against. Unions do not have to discuss crew reduction (conductors) until the last protected conductor is gone. Of course, the company can offer buyouts to protected conductors like they did in the 80’s buyout the brakemen’s position.

The FRA is now ran and appointed by Trump by a ex CEO. They have already passed a provision saying 2 man crews are not mandatory. Federal Law will prevail over state law. It's in our face what they're doing. They will do what they want when they want. PERIOD. Fritz has already been to the white house on several occasions to secure this 1 man deal ASAP. 2004 seniority? Probably deeper.

Good. It is about time that the U.S. caught up with the rest of the world in automated transportation technology.

A few threads down there is a discussion about a bill in Congress that will make it a federal law to have two-person crews. It is interesting that people (railroaders) who generally dislike "big government" have gone running to it as child does to their parents in order to protect their jobs from being outsourced to technology, and without any apparent sense of irony no less.

Conductor only great I have really good conductor seniority so I’m not worried all Engineers have conductor seniority. Still going to be = amount of people lose their jobs.

I heard that UP will make a surprise announcement and the one man crew will comprise of conductors only and no engineers. I guess you just get ‘er rolling and plug it when you’re at your destination. There is no need for engineers with PSR.

I’m assuming the RR is planning on the 1 man crew happening. It’s pretty obvious on zone 100 we are really short on man power and they refuse to hire. It’s turning into a Schlit show here in my terminal. Lots of people really getting burned out and no relief in sight. Once one man crews do get implemented if you don’t have 15 years you better have a plan B! I was also informed that unprotected te@y guys lose there seniority after being furloughed for more than 365 days and ya better believe this company will get those guys off the roster just as fast as they can.

When the FRA decided to squash the 2 person crew requirement there was also an additive that no state could implement its own rules on crew sizes.

The FRA’s ruling also appeared to nullify recent crew size laws implemented in individual states, including Colorado and Nevada.

https://trn.trains.com/news/news-wire/2019/05/24-fra-withdraws-proposed-minimum-crew-size-rule

Now back to the original topic -- In Chicago where both Proviso is seeing it's car loads cut down from 1500 per day to 600 per day we're already predicting cuts all the way back to 2008 when the Global 1 yard is closed. Once the 1 man crew is implemented by the end of 2020 I'm certain we will see people all the way back to 2004 or 2005 without jobs.

A friendly reminder to those in the Chicago area that when the CSX implemented PSR and closed down the Barr Yard their oldest furloughed employee had sixteen years of seniority.

Why don’t you just wish your life away you caulk suuucker

This is obviously a troll post. But just in case anyone needs to hear this...if you’re that worried about it and ready to leave you can quit anytime you want to.

13 states have passed laws requiring 2 man crews

Sounds like Batory

He cant wait to cash in.

Really? You must work in Labor Relations.

http://www.smart-union569.org/docs/contracts/Crew_Consist___Amendment_Agreements.pdf

Nothing in the agreement between the carrier and union says two man crews are required.

Union agrrements take approx 5-6 years to come to a conclusion

First of all it’s a collective bargaining agreement union vs carrier contract