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Legal immigration via IT

The number of foreign-born IT workers in the U.S. is simply astonishing.

Is it fair to allow companies a fairly free hand in bringing in resources, when many native-born Americans end up losing their jobs and opportunities to them?

I keep hearing the companies moan and groan that they cannot find enough people in the US, that US workers do not have the right skills, etc ... when in fact I have seen most willing to retrain constantly. I myself retrained many times, and successfully worked in several different pillars of technology.

But, companies seem hell-bent on continuing this practice: want a 'Go' developer? Rather than allowing on of your 40+ year old coders to learn in a couple months, bring in a younger kid from eastern Europe, India, or Brazil.

Anyone else noticing this trend?

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I worked at several companies that employed H1B’s. (the biggest being Intel and BofA) The same excuse was always given. We can’t find the talent. The H1B workers were definitely indentured servants. (they were always hired thru a middleman Accenture, IBM, HCL etc etc. They usually got together and rented a house with 2-3 guys to a room. It was a way to save money, and sent money home. Yes most were from India. I never understood the economics as when you added it all up, they definitely cost more (the hourly rate was close to equal all in, but the rework was 4x of a local hire mostly due to communications issues). I believe the hiring companies (Intel and BofA) liked the idea of disposable assets The H1B workers went on the books as a temp, and could be terminated in a moments notice. It was making the balance sheet look good.

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H1-b's know how to game the system. Majority of them are fake and lie like a mufo on their resumes. Signs they are fake: 5-7 years exp, 4-5 different positions, latest technologies, no web presence (LinkedIn), resume 4-5 pages, & many more. Then they pass the tech interview because a proxy took it for them, or the interviewer just asked technical text book questions, not high-level-architecture related. They should be able to explain what the hell they worked on from an end-to-end & technical stack perspective. Also, they are cheaper, but in reality they have the same experience or maybe even less then a US recent college grad. So are they really cheaper when they come on board and produce nothing? You can either throw your morals & dignity away and do what they do, or get to the position where you decide who gets hired or not and not even consider them.

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Post ID: @1mfc+ZUnfjCw

Thankfully under the current administration the job market is thriving in several states.

Just have to be willing to move, but even IBM (I've Been Moved) told you this when you were hired.

Stop talking and start chalking.

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Post ID: @1fky+ZUnfjCw

There is but one option available to USA workers to bypass this obstacle to employment:

Resign your USA citizenship and go to India. NOW you can apply for a tech job under H-1B, and be allowed to compete with the other H-1B workers!

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Post ID: @1qzb+ZUnfjCw

H-1B workers are "indentured servants", in that they are beholden to the company that brought them in... In order to walk down the street to work for a different employer with higher pay (still in the USA), they have to jump through HUGE amounts of paperwork, and wait a few years, before getting permission to jump to a better-paying job. AND that means they can NOT afford to "give any lip" (AKA, do any "speaking truth to power") w/regards to their bosses. Do NOT anger the emperor by letting the emperor know that he wears no clothing! THAT is why (among other reasons why) USA bosses like to hire H-1B workers!

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Post ID: @1pzk+ZUnfjCw

IBM is not trustworthy when it comes to your job, they outsource everything possible just to potentially save a few bucks.

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