Thread regarding Honeywell International Inc. layoffs

Accommodation rejected

I was informed today by HR rep with my manager listening-in that my request based on medical for work accommodation (exemption from 15% OT) was rejected . I had all my paperwork done and my cardio doctor signed-off on it. But HR rejected it because I am "exempt" . Gave no other reason. They are supposed to base the rejection on hardship to the company, not on my employee class status. You go check the EEOC site. I already put a call to an employment attorney . Hope to hear back.

Oh yeah, to add insult, between HR and my manager they appointed a matrix manager to over-see me. I told them "I got my documentation and need be, I will go outside with this. " , HR got defensive saying do not threaten me. All they offer is me to jump through the Intermittent FLMA process. Had me call that one-stop number , got hold of some poor English speaking call-center worker who transferred me over to Cigna. They got my info and will mail me forms , but it looks like I would have to request leave in each week of hours I am so-called short of company expectation of OT quota. Seems like bs.

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@ZiQ4SN7-2cls, what drivel! you do not even know how timekeeping works at this company. nice commit time card fraud, and depending on the contract possible jail time. Anymore clever ideas smart boy!

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Post ID: @3gou+ZiQ4SN7

@2eoq, Do as you wish. Continue pursuing on that futile path to force your way against the hand that feeds you. You’ll just stress yourself and eventually your actions will end your career. All they want is a damn report accounting for 40 hours plus 8 extra? Invent one on the fly and make 52 photocopies. There you go, set for one year.

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Post ID: @2cls+ZiQ4SN7

@ZiQ4SN7-2qhk No, it does not work both ways, there will be no shortage of work for you to do. more specifically, even salaried employees must submit time sheets to account to the minute their time, with a mandatory 40 hrs needed each week there is no allowance for less than 40 with out repecussions. then add the mandatory OT on top of that. nice try with the salaried statement, I guess your are in HR or ALT?

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Post ID: @2eoq+ZiQ4SN7

Yeah right. OP, if you take the advice that @2tyk is suggesting, you’ll soon find yourself fired or laid off. So much for seeking some overtime pay, you’ll be out pounding the pavement looking for another job. Face it, you are an “exempt” employee. That means you get a salary, not an hourly wage. Any overtime you put in is on your time. The company will still pay your salary if you had a slack week. It works both ways, man. Drop the issue.

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Post ID: @2qhk+ZiQ4SN7

How about some helpful advice. You can't sue immediately for disability discrimination. Went through this with my son. Honeywell must make a "reasonable accommodation" for your disability. The bigger the company, the more they might have to do. You need to complain to the EEOC that H has not made a reasonable accommodation of limiting you to 40 hours. Do it now!

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Post ID: @2tyk+ZiQ4SN7

1zjr I say to them, "go ahead, make my day."

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Post ID: @2onx+ZiQ4SN7

@OP you posted some pretty specific details here, and you’re kidding yourself if you think they don’t check this place out. You likely signed your own pink slip.

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Post ID: @1zjr+ZiQ4SN7

@ZiQ4SN7-1ydt, I hope you are practicing your moves at home, would not want to make it look amateurish when you do it at work LOL, best of luck on your s--c-de, just don't take any of with you :-)

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Post ID: @1nvn+ZiQ4SN7

Now that you have documented your disability it is time to have a work related accident. I recommend severing a finger tip as this has the added bonus of a significant insurance payout if you have our disability insurance even if reattached. You can also try touch exposed voltage wires, falling down stairs or just stepping out in front of a “speeding” company vehicle on the property. Stress makes someone inattentive after all. Call that HR generalist during the ambulance ride to make sure they think about their choices for a long time.

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Post ID: @1ydt+ZiQ4SN7

I know someone who had the same thing happen to him when he requested time to work from home for a medical condition. He went thru all the hoops with HR and was still denied. So he left. Then he came back to HNY working remote To Phx. Haahh!!! Fools...

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Post ID: @1lwj+ZiQ4SN7

You will never get documented exemption from a policy that they won't admit on paper ever existed. There is an important reason why the EEI isn't published in any written policy, and that is because it skirts the labor laws. Honeywell can't admit officially that they do this.

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Post ID: @gin+ZiQ4SN7

you're not going to get a waver from your boss or HR. The proper path forward is to get your doctor to forward his letter to CIGNA indicating there is a medical disability. I highly doubt you will get out of saying working OT is stressing you out, but you can have it written the manner that the demands of the job or causing mental stress and you might get a reduced work schedule with full pay. At this point it is up to your doctor to build the case for you. I have seen this done many times and it is the only way forward. otherwise everyone with a sob story would get waiver. Added benefit you are now protected as having disability that a PIP or management action can't touch until the FMLA is over. The FMLA can be extended, how far I do not know but i have seen them go for up to a year.

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Post ID: @ywe+ZiQ4SN7

Oh!

Watch out because they will try to pit you against each other and create animosity between you and your peers using all dirty tricks. Do not fall into such a trap!

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Post ID: @vec+ZiQ4SN7

Register a complaint with EEOC, Equal Opportunity Office, your local mayor and Governor and the Department of Economic Security. Such malpractice should be put to an end!

  • Any person performing illegal activity against a US citizen is a criminal or a criminal-support and criminal sympathizer.

  • Such people enforcing and harassing a US citizen and US person is also a material-supporter of such malpractice.

  • File a complaint and don't hesitate. They will threaten you and try to weaken your confidence and will-power. There is nothing to lose and they have more to lose than you.

  • https://www.huffpost.com/entry/eeoc-versus-honeywell-int_b_12385442

  • http://www.startribune.com/government-sues-honeywell-over-employee-wellness-program/280726482/

  • https://www.thelayoff.com/t/HOnycjh

  • https://www.eeoc.gov/eeoc/newsroom/release/10-4-04a.cfm

  • https://www.eeoc.gov/eeoc/newsroom/release/11-21-02.cfm

  • https://www.dallaswhistleblowerlawyer.com/blog/whistleblower-files-lawsuit-against-honeywell-international-for-alleged-retaliation/

  • https://cases.justia.com/federal/appellate-courts/ca5/13-20575/13-20575-2015-02-12.pdf?ts=1423832442

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Post ID: @lln+ZiQ4SN7

They will sure PIP you. You went full r----d with this, never go full r----d.

What you should do instead is not give a c-ap about their OT quota and work however many hours you feel like. If you want to do 40 do 40 and say f it. They can't force you to do OT.

In the meantime look for a job quietly and leave on your own.

Trying to fight something they are not "forcing" on you "legally speaking" will never fly in corporate America.

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Post ID: @lwo+ZiQ4SN7

Op, I have checked my crystal ball this morning

1- Your manager will start to put unrealistic tasks on you, and blame in front of others so that your confidence level sink, you will be cut from meetings

2- Your PiP (Political Irrational Purge) will be notified to you during your Mid Year Review

3- Your termination process is already in place and will take place somewhere in august 2019.

Smile, because HON is giving you a chance to leave this c-ap company. Dont look back and look for a job now.

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Post ID: @ftx+ZiQ4SN7

You are destined for next PIP, guaranteed.

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Post ID: @bjn+ZiQ4SN7

Better start looking.

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Post ID: @awg+ZiQ4SN7

I suspect FMLA isn’t going to cover OT that isn’t otherwise paid to the employee. You could catch HR is a Catch-22 if you play your cards right...

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