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June 5

Did any other managers get the invite for the June 5 SE pay cut meeting?

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Post ID: @OP+Zozfs07

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A GR10 in sales is 175-215k without making plan.

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Post ID: @3ilc+Zozfs07

a GR10 in CX makes $138k. you guys in sales are being ripped off.

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Post ID: @2zvk+Zozfs07

TTC is Total Target Compensation and KSO is Key Sales Objectives, if I remember correctly.

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Post ID: @2try+Zozfs07

I'm in Eng BU. What does KSO and TTC stand for?

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Post ID: @2zpq+Zozfs07

@commision skeptic

That’s great except your math for your New Plan scenario is off. It should be:

[97,000] + 27,200 = 124,200 under the new plan

Vs. 125,350 under the old plan at 85% attainment

So it’s always a slight loss when you are under your target attainment on the new plan. That’s now a higher leveraged plan works.

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Post ID: @2bwu+Zozfs07

What was the results from today’s call?

KSO’s go away.

3% drop in base.

They CLAIM to be holding TTC where it is, thus increasing the incentive (variable) component.

Examples they gave seem like it potentially amounts to a slight bump in the bottom line. BUT - without knowing how the actual GOALSHEETS are structured, it’s unclear if this will be as cut and dry as they claim.

Example:

Current plan:

SE BASE: $100000

SE Target Incentive: $29,000 (KSO $5,800 + Comm $23,000)

TTC: $129,000

New Plan:

SE BASE: $97,000

New SE Target Incentive: (OLD TTC - NEW BASE): $32,000

New TTC: $97,000 + 32,000 = $129,000

This can potentially help bump up your bottom line, even if you don’t make your plan. Let’s say you finish at 85% of plan (and you achieve all KSOs under the old system). The old vs new scenarios look like this:

85% attainment (old plan)

Base: 100,000

KSO: 5,800

Comm: 85% * 23,000 = 19,550

100,000+5,800+19,550 = $125,350

85% attainment (new plan)

Base: 97,000

Comm: 85% * 32,000 = $27,200

100,000+27,200 = $127,200

So, their spin is, this will net out to a slight raise for SEs. But without seeing actual plan elements and goalsheets (which are not reviewed as part of this) it is unclear if it really works out this way.

They also claim to be adding a 2:1 accelerator component for overachievement, which they claim is another positive for SEs.

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Post ID: @2tmr+Zozfs07

... **were !!

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Post ID: @1ulf+Zozfs07

What was the results from today’s call?

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Post ID: @1ygo+Zozfs07

Attrition is the point.

I thought so to until they went through the “How did we get here?” Section. It appears that this compensation team, which lives in its own bubble, just dreams up new compensation scenarios, then feeds them into the ELT for review and buy-in.

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Post ID: @qcw+Zozfs07

Approximately How many SEs are at Cisco now? The word is that this cut will affect 5000 SEs.

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Post ID: @etz+Zozfs07

Attrition is the point.

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Post ID: @cit+Zozfs07

Yes. Going to be big attrition problems and we're already short with open recs we can't fill.

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Post ID: @utp+Zozfs07

The invites came on May 26th

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Post ID: @gda+Zozfs07

Yes. If you didn’t just search for FY20 Comp planning on CEC.

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Post ID: @iqu+Zozfs07

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