What are you guys hearing?
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The bullet that will terminate OCI has already been released, it just hasn’t reached its target yet. In transit, as they say
THIS empty cloud is what is suing and keeping DoD from.moving forward. This, not even a cloud, complaining they were unfairly deemed technically deficient.
All Oracle is is a bunch of lawyers and grandpa, er, Dad 2.0
I can say with certainty that the new FY OCI expansion plans are essentially dead. The new regions that were planned are on hold, and the regions that are moving forward are all OAD with a footprint so small it's essentially impossible to sell customer capacity or expand.
It can't just die - it's not that simple. Because OCI was moving so fast and with no real planning in place, they were brutalized by every colo they contracted with (hence that whole team getting the axe in the April RIF) and now they have a bunch of space - along with OCI-C - that they have 5-7 agreements with and absolutely no way to exit. In some cases now they will have two agreements - OCI and OCI-C with essentially bare space...in the same physical colo.
So what will happen is a slow consolidation of customer capacity down to Phoenix, Ashburn and probably London primarily to support internal workload migration and limited customer capacity. Hell, they've been trying since OCI started to get internal workloads migrated and have made close to zero progress. Smart groups dragged their feet because they could see the handwriting on the wall.
Oracle can achieve what they announced about azure by installing few Exadata machines in each azure regions. They will call it their cloud machine - no OCI data centers in picture, just that oracle dB will run on exadata (in azure data center).
OCI is dead!
It won't go away immediately. It will be slowly bled dry like everything else. Funding will be reduced and the management will then, group by group, transfer the work to India.
Management will be told that in order to keep their groups intact and get work done, they should take advantage of adding a few people from India that are lower cost. Those people will then get to know the code in that area and when they have enough knowledge transfer, the people in the U.S. will be laid off.
The U.S. employees will drag their feet when they realize that is going to happen and it will take forever to get that done. The knowledge transfer will not occur fully, because the employees who are losing their jobs to India will not participate fully in that. They will try to sabotage the people in India. As they move the code to India, they will slowly layoff employees in the U.S.
Same old, same old.....
“OCI is not gonna go anywhere, at least such a decision even to reduce workforce significantly is not going to be made for another year or two. Oracle has lots of internal stuff now running oci which, I assume, costs alot to host on someone elses cloud or to migrate.”
So Global IT is going to be even more fragmented than they are now. I would say MS is on it, but he's been in a coma for the last 10 years.
“OCI is not gonna go anywhere, at least such a decision even to reduce workforce significantly is not going to be made for another year or two. Oracle has lots of internal stuff now running oci which, I assume, costs alot to host on someone elses cloud or to migrate.”
Are they going to need 3000 (or whatever the number) people to run internal stuff? I would guess that number to be around 200.
"They’ve to integrate active directory with idcs or whatever the heck OCI is using for identity. They’ll need to retain at least 10 people for that."
Is already done. Identity integration is done already IIRC.
OCI is not gonna go anywhere, at least such a decision even to reduce workforce significantly is not going to be made for another year or two. Oracle has lots of internal stuff now running oci which, I assume, costs alot to host on someone elses cloud or to migrate.
The fact that OCI is pretty late in the game and pretty young when it is compared to Azure and AWS is not helping ORACLe at all.
They’ve to integrate active directory with idcs or whatever the heck OCI is using for identity. They’ll need to retain at least 10 people for that.
With the Azure news and the low OCI morale, it must be expected that the really good OCI cloud engineers will be hitting the road - going back to AWS, Azure, etc., thus leaving a more depleted OCI...you can hear the brain drain going down the death spiral.
Unnecessary expense, except that it helps lend some credibility to the 3 stooges cloud fraud - hard to book fictitious cloud revenues once it obvious to everybody that you don’t have a cloud group, even if that group on reality produces exactly nothing. Even with the expense of the Seattle hipsters included cloud fraud is hugely profitable to the 3 stooges personally based on stock sales and Avoidance of Margin calls
Oracle is openly promoting the option to take the Microsoft Azure path for infrastructure with Oracle Applications. That's a clear message that Oracle does not see a viable path for OCI and customers know that for d sure..
OCI will continue to exist but not as an AWS or Azure k--ler. it will be like Oracle Linux. We need it to run other things like Autonomous. OCI vision will be scaled down.
Morale is already at all time low in oci now. I don’t see its going to shutdown soon but eventually it will (not sure how much time though). I don’t see DeeJay takes a hard step shutting down oci soon after all the show and hype he’s been putting all these years.
Have not heard that. Seems unlikely.