Thread regarding L-3 Communications Holdings Inc. layoffs

WHO IS GUY FAWKES?

We do not relish the conception of composing thoughts received by some as aspersions. Despite your misjudgment Guy Fawkes is the culmination of an eclectic body encompassing the cognitive judgment and reasoning of those which has sacrificed to serve them in places of authority.

You ponder the distinctiveness of Guy Fawkes. However, each one of you is Guy Fawkes. They are the silent ones, Le Penseur, the brash, the modest, the indecisive, and the impetuous. Videlicet, Guy Fawkes is you and me, an embodiment of everything we observe and ponder; the voice of collective consciousness, perception, and logic.

We the people distinguish first-hand the callous indifferences afforded the worker(s) being cast aside whenever you’ve determined their time has expired, and the illuminati pronounce judgment sending another victim into the jaws of the lion’s den. Without warning, without regard to the many years of service, the executioner wields the hatchet of injustice sending yet another victim plunging hastily, without remorse, into obscurity.

Without regard to employee service or loyalty; without compassion, persons are cast aside like rubbish. Case in point, how unprofessional and unprepared was the HR department when the axe was poised in judgment, but the jesters failed to realize that their victim’s shift had already ended. Was this a minor oversight? Consider another victim who was shocked when without warning was told to gather their personal belongings and to their dismay HR had not yet notified the individual they were being laid off. This is but a microcosm symbolic of leaderships inept mishandling of a crisis in a very maladroit way. What in the hell are these people doing?

As one cynic remarked, ‘May God have mercy upon your soul.’ I riposte ‘May God have mercy upon all our souls.’ Do not forget that you too are simply a number and will someday be called; you were marginally so close, yet unaware.

Gibberish, incoherent, nonsensical, and insanely idiotic not even close to rational thought and everyone in the room is dumber for having listened to it. Did you mean to say, for having read it? Are you a member of the IT (Ivory Tower) group or a want to be?

We have a common oppressor, a common exploiter, and a common discriminator. But once we realize that we have a nemesis common to all, we then can become completely united on the basis of what we have in common. Unite collectively that our voices may be heard as productive workers and shareholders who have a distinct desire to see our company prosper despite incompetent leadership.

Definitizing productivity is not the utilization of a kindergarten cop doing more laps around the premises than Jeff Gordon does at NASCAR. Whatever happened to the highly esteemed, exceptionally talented, globally connected salesman that was hired because of their expertise and marketing ability? These ‘so-called’ seasoned experts come to town; produce little, while milking the cash cow. Where do they go? Do they simply propagate the medium supposed by the ancients to fill the upper regions of space?

You signify the cowardice of Guy Fawkes while your hound dogs position themselves ready to pounce upon anyone that dares to disagree, or attempts to express a difference of opinion. We cannot count the number of times we’ve had to sit quietly and bite our lip knowing full-well that if we were to express a contrary opinion that our names would be added to ‘the downsizing list. My fellow peers, am I being fallacious? Do you have the intestinal fortitude to concur? Have we not left meetings shaking our heads because the demands of our superiors have laid upon us burdensome and nearly impossible tasks?

Here lies an oxymoron: The IT (Ivory Tower) demands no IT (Idle Time) produces no IT (Innovative Technology) and yet continues to employ IT (ineffective talent).

We hope for a future yet despair, we yearn for productivity yet remain idle, and we desire leadership yet receive ‘Nothing new to Report.’

As long as individuals are compelled to rent themselves on the market to those who are willing to hire them, as long as their role in production is simply that of ancillary tools, then there are striking elements of coercion and oppression that make talk of democracy very limited, if even meaningful….Guy Fawkes

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Guy Fawkes is sometimes toasted as "the last man to enter Parliament with honest intentions." I think his (Guido Fawkes) intentions are to see the company succeed. Maybe blowup the insane plans that are ruining the company he works for.

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I don't get the Guy Fawkes reference. Wasn't he executed for trying to blow up British Parliament in the 15 or 1600s? Celebrated villain isn't he?

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Plain and simple. I vote FAWKES for President. It sounds like he would straighten things out.

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Who in the hell is Guy Fawkes? He should be writing novels. OMG this person maybe should be in the front office. If nothing else he knows how to write novels.

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Exactly! There is HUGE mis-management issues at L-3.. especially CSW. The problem is that corporate has allowed all these "managers" to have "sub-managers" and for those sub-managers to have "sub-sub-managers".. and in fact they all report to the same person! How can people give a crap about what people actually do and perform to sustain this company when all the 3/4 top layer of people only want to look at pie-charts and other "reports". No wonder it's "rumored" that certain U.S. Army and prime contractors for DOD are starting to hate L-3 for all the damn expenses, when in fact there are a few people (operations to Program managers) that actually do or direct the work then there are people above them commanding 3-5 times the cost of the lower levels to do nothing but rubber stamp the other peoples elbow grease. It's like paying 15 people to have one guy wash and wax your car. LOL!

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quote "ou were marginally so close, yet unaware. Gibberish, incoherent, nonsensical, and insanely idiotic not even close to rational thought and everyone in the room is dumber for having listened to it." << Dude, this is a quote from a movie starring Adam Sandler titled "Billy Madison". It's an attempt at humor, for you and all of us. The movie is sort of stupid, but from our perspectives it is a jest at the length and content of your posts.

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I do agree that you are correct:L-3 doesn't care about loyalty, time in service, anything, when it comes time to cut some heads. The people in HR are doing the bidding of their masters, and they have a specific formula that is partially accentuated by your managers. In the end, if your managers can "cut some fat" ie, paychecks and save their department money, they don't care if you are invaluable.. they think for your salary they can hire (if needed) 2-3 more younger people to scratch their butts and talk jibber-jabber and make some pie-charts or w/e. They care about numbers...thats it. That's why this ship is sinking. And yeah, are they rude about how they do mass-layoffs? YES! Any MOOG, Inc, employee had 6-9 months of warning when the company decided to re-position their work elements... and they got paid extra too. L-3 is cold and heartless... its just a fact, at least in Utah divisions. Good luck with your new future, as to all of us.

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I couldn't agree with you more than we need HR, Engineering, Marketing, Sales, etc. As an observer I wasn't sure where Fawkes was going. But after reading several comments I think that Fawkes wants the same thing. Fawkes is simply saying that their group wants our company to succeed, but the individuals that are suppose to be making it happen are not doing it, but they continue working for the company. If any of the postings are true, then there is some incompetence and we need better control of that. I may not like Fawkes forward approach, but I think he might be right on target.

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Post ID: @1VQo+wZ52wru

Dude, get a life...if you don't like working at L3 then go get another job you loser.

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