Thread regarding Corinthian Colleges Inc. layoffs

Students, take some responsibility

I was in admissions with CCI 4 years ago. I loved what I did and I was truthful with students. Many times I got someone on the phone and they started out asking "when do I get my refund check, I need to get paid." I would tell them if they wanted to get paid, go find a job. No matter where students go to school, they MUST take some responsibility in this. My son lived at home, attended USF, took a stipen check and yes ... HAD TO PAY IT BACK. Should I blame USF? PEOPLE, READ WHAT YOU ARE ACTUALLY SIGNING. Don't just click the "I agree" button without reading. And where does it say, someone with a criminal past, or someone in poverty doesn't deserve an education? Everyone deserves an education if they are willing to put in the time and effort and hard work. If they are presented with the TRUTH and still want to go to school, then I applaud them. If they are NOT given the truth, then shame on the school.

CCI made many BAD, financial and ethical decisions. I would shake my head and think to myself "surely, someone in upper management will stop these bad decisions"; it never stopped. CCI seemed to always be reactive... not PRO-active to issues in the industry. If a company is losing money hand over fist, does it make send to close the place down and make everyone go bowling? Management, WAKE THE H##L UP. The company got greedy and you finally got caught.

I feel bad for the honest employees that actually cared, and for the hard working students. For the greedy and the ones out for the stipen check, well what goes around, comes around.

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so what people are saying is that a government ran school issued a high school diploma to that idiot who could not read, Now he could sue the school for being BIAS because he is dumber than a cart load of hay ?????? WTF??

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Reputable schools have students run. Background checks if the field requires a clean record to be licensed. They AT the LEAST tell students what is required the rest screw the tax payers and the students.

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19191, that is just one incident. I've had hundreds of students and have not experienced a one of them incapable of understanding what they are doing or unable to read and write.

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Anonymous19188- Charge a bunch of 3rd graders a few thousand and tell each 3rd grader he fully understood. lol

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19182, what are you talking about? Are you saying students are victims because they didn't know what to expect? That because they didn't do research or take school seriously, that it's not their fault?!?! Right.

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Some students don't realize the education wasn't worth it until it's too late.

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To 19150.... If falls on the school if the school knows this information and doesn't tell the student it could make a difference of them not getting work in that field. If someone has a felony, they may not be able to drive to/from a job site, or they won't pass a required background check. Ultimately it is the STUDENTS DECISION if they want to move forward with enrollment in that program knowing that a felony will limit or disqualify them from getting a job. Business degrees were always best because someone with a felony could go to work for themselves if need be. The key here is that the school must advise the student of all the pros and cons and let the student make the decision. Career Services can do the best they can with what they have. Now, please don't misunderstand... I am NOT condoning them falsifying any placement data by any means. Plain and simple… If I sign something and I don’t read it at all or fail to read the fine print, shame on me. Society as a whole has stopped taking responsibility for their bad actions. It’s much easier to blame someone else rather than suffer the embarrassment to say “I made a stupid move.”

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I agree. It makes me so angry to see students on the roster who don't come to class and then complain about their grade. Take some responsibility. Whether you choose to attend class or just take the $ and run, it's yours to pay back.

I get it. Obviously there have been some big problems, enough to bring a school down. But when it comes to taking the $, the students weren't total victims. They choose whether or not to take it and whether or not to attend classes. They know it's loan money.

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Since when is it the responsibility of a school to find out your background and tell you whether or not you can get a job in your field? Isn't that the responsibility of he or she who has been convicted of a felony?!?! I hear that complaint time and again, but I don't understand how that falls at the feet of the school and not the student?!?!

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I agree 100%! I can't tell you how many students told me Everest was the best decision they ever made. I have seen success stories, literally students coming out of school starting at over $18 hr. The problem is, some of these students that come to Everest don't take their education seriously. I know I can't speak for all campuses, but at my campus sometimes I felt like I was back in high school even though the majority of these students were age 30+! You get as much out of it as you put in.. If you start and drop, of course you're screwed.. THATS ANY COLLEGE OR UNIVERSITY! These state funded schools are terribly expensive, don't offer any type of career hands on training and they definitely don't even try to help you find a job afterwards.

I really can't say what Everest did or what they didn't do, but I know the two years I've been in admissions I have laughed, smiled and cried with these students. I have watched them struggle through college and at the end, find success and a good paying career. I can honestly say I've changed lives and I know that's cliche, but it's true. Most of our students wouldn't have made it one semester in a "traditional" university or community college. There needs to be another options for them!! Obviously, it won't be CCI anymore, but the only option should not be 4 years of college.

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The student debt load is a smokescreen. I worked in SF and the students were made aware of the loan terms. We estimated their debt throughout their program before they started attending. Many of them wanted to max out anything they could to have a few extra bucks, and many of those blew that on non-essentials. It's true that the day after the financial aid checks were distributed there would be new manicures and weaves (and I'm sure whatever the guy equivalent is). CCi did fudge placement rates, and apparently starting salaries. That's a real problem. Some students wouldn't care, but for a conscientious potential student, it was absolutely unfair to give them false information in that area. They have to determine an ROI for their education, and likelihood of employment and starting salary are crucial to that. Admissions reps were just presenting what they were told to present. It was leadership, from CPs all the way up, who got greedy and lost any shred of common decency.

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