at ANY other college. I have many, many barely literate students. I've taught college for 20 years and I've never seen a mess of classrooms as I've seen here. The curriculum is so easy, and students only need to post once every 14 days not to get kicked out. Yet, some of my classes have had a 50% retention rate. Failure is a choice here. But any students who try to make a go of it at other schools simply don't have the skills to succeed. This is the only college I know of without a competency exam to enter any program. It's deeply troubling. I wonder if the 4th floor has ANY understanding of the level of student they actually recruit? My Dean spends all his time lecturing about outreach. It's so backwards. It's a fail fail for everyone, no matter what happens.
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This is why, whether COCO gets sold or not, I will be leaving. This is fraud, and I will no longer participate.
Wrong is wrong, folks. The fact of the matter is that the majority of the students attending Everest cannot/will not be successful in careers in their fields because they never should have been admitted. Any school without an application fee or entrance requirement is after one thing and one thing only: federal dollars with which to line their pockets. The focus is on retention for one reason only; to keep the dollars coming. There is no concern for the lives of these "barely literate" students who have just been put in a lifelong struggle to pay debt they didn't even realize they were acquiring.
What's sad is that students will probably try to transfer to other for-profit schools just to finish out their degrees, only to deal with the same terrible policies and low-quality education. It's really sad.
33096 is right. There are plenty of other "schools" like Everest with no entrance exams, and believe it or not, there are some with more lenient "attendance" requirements. I know of one that only requires students to log into an online course to be considered present. No actual work is required.
As someone who has worked for both CCI and ITT Tech, I can confirm that CCI is NOT the only "college" without a competency exam to enter any program. ITT Tech dropped theirs in either late 2012 or early 2013.
998, if you don't, go get a life and stop trolling our boards. People do care. Some trolls are so far removed from humans, they've lost all sense of decency. It's not just annoying. It's sad. Get yourself a life, and feel free not to come back to this board. Trust me, no one will miss you.
Who cares!
It's interesting that employees (and trolls) keep insisting that CCI is going to sell. But no school will be able to function without the same curriculum and instruction model as the one Everest has. Students fail often (through lack of participation.) No other school can absorb these students. Too many are unable to
Do the work without serious intervention. Student success classes should be priority but school doesn't want to pay instructors. I've been told by students they can't get tutoring, although so thought that was a free service to students. Then Deans push to do one in ones, in addition to the outreach. I don't have the time. I'm not working full time for $1500 per class. But when I have made myself available, students don't bother to show up anyway. Oh, and now at ECPO anyway, plagiarism is now our problem too. We have to meets with students about that. They don't show. There's NO winning for instructors or students. This system is designed for failure.
In the U.S., about 1/3 of mentally retarded students graduate from high school. Many of these students want to continue their education for various reasons (career opportunities, promises seen on the media, qualifying for EBT, etc.). Community Colleges are too difficult, either academically or logistically. CCi has provided these students a means to continue their education. It clearly doesn't work very well. Does anyone have a better idea?
Its not about the students - at CCI its about the revenue. Students only matter in that they represent a revenue stream. In order to maintain the revenue stream in a competitive market, admission and academic performance standards are eliminated, and focus is turned to keeping students enrolled, no matter what(outreach). The result is classes full (or half full...)of incompetent induividuals who cannot/will not learn, but who continue to provide a revenue source for the compnay. This is the sad, twisted approach to "education" that CCI has adopted.
Agreed. I've had students try to transfer to other schools. All for profits think Everest is a joke and won't transfer any credits. And if the school does sell to a non profit (it won't, IMO) the programs will be even more rigorous. Any schools that want to buy us really needs to look closely at the classrooms and students. They will be buying trouble. These students will have an uphill battle at any other school.